Two more migrants drown in channel
Two more migrants drown in channel
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lornemalvo

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3,434 posts

85 months

Saturday
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Has anyone noticed that, despite the vast majority of dinghy migrants being young males, the majority of victims who drown or are crushed by others on board appear to be women, children and babies? There may be exceptions when the boats fully sink with all on board. Makes you wonder whether these "men" are people we really want in our country.

T6 vanman

3,304 posts

116 months

Saturday
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The Bidens couldn't have cared less of the 100's who drowned in the Rio Grande,
The EU don't care about the 100's drowned in the Med
And all the British charity NGO's in Calais don't care,

Personally each one is a tragedy but I'm detached from it,
When I get on a boat travel across water I make sure It's a commercial safe vessel

Unfortunately no one cares
Especially the young males dinghy migrants

Edited by T6 vanman on Saturday 27th September 10:03

DeadShed

8,617 posts

156 months

Saturday
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lornemalvo said:
Has anyone noticed that, despite the vast majority of dinghy migrants being young males, the majority of victims who drown or are crushed by others on board appear to be women, children and babies? There may be exceptions when the boats fully sink with all on board. Makes you wonder whether these "men" are people we really want in our country.
Are they? Genuine question, what are the actual stats?

paulw123

4,238 posts

207 months

Saturday
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Dangerously overcrowded boat that should have been prevented from leaving the beach, by the French or if they won't they should allow the UK to police it.
It's no secret where these pickups take place and they can be prevented.

The way to prevent these deaths is to at least stop any boat leaving the beach that is carrying more occupants than it can safely carry.

NDA

23,595 posts

242 months

Saturday
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paulw123 said:
Dangerously overcrowded boat that should have been prevented from leaving the beach, either by us or the French.

The way to prevent these deaths is to at least stop any boat leaving the beach that is carrying more occupants than it can safely carry.
Stopping any boat would be the measure most would want.

thebraketester

15,187 posts

155 months

Saturday
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NDA said:
Stopping any boat would be the measure most would want.
It would. But how?

milesgiles

3,054 posts

46 months

Saturday
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thebraketester said:
NDA said:
Stopping any boat would be the measure most would want.
It would. But how?
Give France lots of money?

asfault

13,283 posts

196 months

Saturday
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thebraketester said:
NDA said:
Stopping any boat would be the measure most would want.
It would. But how?
Change the law on asylum.
change the law on legally challenging the ability to change this law.
change the law on illegal migrants getting a lawyer who is allowed to defend them against deportation etc.

in short root cause the start of any proceedure that stops or hinders immediate deportation of illegals.

E63eeeeee...

5,620 posts

66 months

Saturday
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paulw123 said:
Dangerously overcrowded boat that should have been prevented from leaving the beach, by the French or if they won't they should allow the UK to police it.
It's no secret where these pickups take place and they can be prevented.

The way to prevent these deaths is to at least stop any boat leaving the beach that is carrying more occupants than it can safely carry.
The boats don't generally go to the beach any more because too many of them were stopped.

E63eeeeee...

5,620 posts

66 months

Saturday
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asfault said:
thebraketester said:
NDA said:
Stopping any boat would be the measure most would want.
It would. But how?
Change the law on asylum.
change the law on legally challenging the ability to change this law.
change the law on illegal migrants getting a lawyer who is allowed to defend them against deportation etc.

in short root cause the start of any proceedure that stops or hinders immediate deportation of illegals.
When you say change the law on asylum, do you mean make it legal to send people back to death and torture?

br d

8,965 posts

243 months

Saturday
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E63eeeeee... said:
When you say change the law on asylum, do you mean make it legal to send people back to death and torture?
Is that what the French are doing?
That Macron's an evil bd.

E63eeeeee...

5,620 posts

66 months

Saturday
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br d said:
E63eeeeee... said:
When you say change the law on asylum, do you mean make it legal to send people back to death and torture?
Is that what the French are doing?
That Macron's an evil bd.
No, because the French apply the same asylum law as we do. If you can persuade the French to take them back, go for it, that will work. See also one in one out, of course.

borcy

8,303 posts

73 months

Saturday
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E63eeeeee... said:
The boats don't generally go to the beach any more because too many of them were stopped.
Where do they go now?

E63eeeeee...

5,620 posts

66 months

Saturday
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borcy said:
E63eeeeee... said:
The boats don't generally go to the beach any more because too many of them were stopped.
Where do they go now?
They park in the nearest Carrefour car park and then fire them out of a cannon into the Channel.

Superflow

1,633 posts

149 months

Saturday
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E63eeeeee... said:
They park in the nearest Carrefour car park and then fire them out of a cannon into the Channel.
I wondered what that noise was I nearly dropped the poulet.

asfault

13,283 posts

196 months

Saturday
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E63eeeeee... said:
asfault said:
thebraketester said:
NDA said:
Stopping any boat would be the measure most would want.
It would. But how?
Change the law on asylum.
change the law on legally challenging the ability to change this law.
change the law on illegal migrants getting a lawyer who is allowed to defend them against deportation etc.

in short root cause the start of any proceedure that stops or hinders immediate deportation of illegals.
When you say change the law on asylum, do you mean make it legal to send people back to death and torture?
no passports, no papers? nothing? but they manage to get 1000s to pay smugglers?
you don't seriously believe that the majority are legit? please dont tell me you are that out of touch/ignorant.
Its very easy to play the moral high ground card but there wont be a high ground for you in 10 15 years or less when city centres get worse than they already are.

brake fader

2,164 posts

52 months

Saturday
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It seems the French are happy to ignore maritime law allowing overloaded unsafe vessels which are a threat to life to cast off their coast surely just waving them off is illegal knowing they may sink. But hey ho they obviously don't give a ---- the EU are a joke, the law only comes into play once they arrive in British waters strange that eh, very two tier!

E63eeeeee...

5,620 posts

66 months

Saturday
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asfault said:
E63eeeeee... said:
asfault said:
thebraketester said:
NDA said:
Stopping any boat would be the measure most would want.
It would. But how?
Change the law on asylum.
change the law on legally challenging the ability to change this law.
change the law on illegal migrants getting a lawyer who is allowed to defend them against deportation etc.

in short root cause the start of any proceedure that stops or hinders immediate deportation of illegals.
When you say change the law on asylum, do you mean make it legal to send people back to death and torture?
no passports, no papers? nothing? but they manage to get 1000s to pay smugglers?
you don't seriously believe that the majority are legit? please dont tell me you are that out of touch/ignorant.
Its very easy to play the moral high ground card but there wont be a high ground for you in 10 15 years or less when city centres get worse than they already are.
You didn't answer the question. What would you change about the law on asylum? The only thing it stops you doing is sending people back to death or torture.

borcy

8,303 posts

73 months

Saturday
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E63eeeeee... said:
borcy said:
E63eeeeee... said:
The boats don't generally go to the beach any more because too many of them were stopped.
Where do they go now?
They park in the nearest Carrefour car park and then fire them out of a cannon into the Channel.
OK confused

TriumphStag3.0V8

4,835 posts

98 months

Saturday
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E63eeeeee... said:
asfault said:
E63eeeeee... said:
asfault said:
thebraketester said:
NDA said:
Stopping any boat would be the measure most would want.
It would. But how?
Change the law on asylum.
change the law on legally challenging the ability to change this law.
change the law on illegal migrants getting a lawyer who is allowed to defend them against deportation etc.

in short root cause the start of any proceedure that stops or hinders immediate deportation of illegals.
When you say change the law on asylum, do you mean make it legal to send people back to death and torture?
no passports, no papers? nothing? but they manage to get 1000s to pay smugglers?
you don't seriously believe that the majority are legit? please dont tell me you are that out of touch/ignorant.
Its very easy to play the moral high ground card but there wont be a high ground for you in 10 15 years or less when city centres get worse than they already are.
You didn't answer the question. What would you change about the law on asylum? The only thing it stops you doing is sending people back to death or torture.
If you believe that then I have a bridge to sell you.