Child killed by falling tree
Discussion
First off: how awful for the family, they have my condolences.
A large tree (looks like an oak) has fallen on children, killing one and injuring others
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gdr4el5vpo
My understanding is that the risk to the general public from trees is pretty rare, especially in calm weather.
Reading this did make me think of that pub/restaurant who chopped a tree down on safety grounds recently and got excoriated by the council for doing so - i think the leader threatened to prosecute them.
This might well cause landowners and in particular councils to rethink the safety of their trees?
A large tree (looks like an oak) has fallen on children, killing one and injuring others
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gdr4el5vpo
My understanding is that the risk to the general public from trees is pretty rare, especially in calm weather.
Reading this did make me think of that pub/restaurant who chopped a tree down on safety grounds recently and got excoriated by the council for doing so - i think the leader threatened to prosecute them.
This might well cause landowners and in particular councils to rethink the safety of their trees?
I did a bit of estate management for a few years. My responsibilities included 400 trees, some of the cedars were 300+ years old.
The estate was open to the public. It was a requirement of the PL insurance that an arboriculturist inspected the trees every two years and any identified works were carried out as required.
We lost a few in high winds, thankfully usually overnight when the estate was closed. It was always the ones that had been given a clean bill of health that fell over.
The estate was open to the public. It was a requirement of the PL insurance that an arboriculturist inspected the trees every two years and any identified works were carried out as required.
We lost a few in high winds, thankfully usually overnight when the estate was closed. It was always the ones that had been given a clean bill of health that fell over.
I used to work with this man, a very nice guy as described within.
https://www.wilmslow.co.uk/news/article/24396/coun...
I didn't know about the HSE outcome until just now. So it depends what happened previously.
https://www.wilmslow.co.uk/news/article/24396/coun...
I didn't know about the HSE outcome until just now. So it depends what happened previously.
Local to me - is a very old cedar tree (I think) and one of the main branches has been supported for years.
I think that Southend Council wanted to remove it years ago but there was a big local outcry so they relented. I reckong that they may have a major issue on their hand over this, given that a child has died.
I think that Southend Council wanted to remove it years ago but there was a big local outcry so they relented. I reckong that they may have a major issue on their hand over this, given that a child has died.
Edited by Pincher on Saturday 28th June 22:35
I run my own tree surgery firm and we look after a very large estate which has several main roads going through it. They have a survey done every couple of years to identify any issues. Climatic changes have played a big part on how trees react, with milder winters, extremely lengthy periods of rain and winds from the non prevailing direction all having an impact. I am not saying that thiese factors has anything to do with this tragedy but it is surprising how seasonal changes can and will effect mature trees.
Too soon to speculate I think but it has been propped up like that for probably the best part of 20 or 30 years I reckon and will have been clambered over throughout that time - guess that something caused it to snap but who knows what?
The fact that it seems to have separated at the trunk itself might indicate that it wasn t being climbed on that caused this - that lateral branch was a few feet thick at the trunk.
You can see how big the trunk is in the second picture - there is a fairly big octagonal bench round it - gives some idea of scale..
The fact that it seems to have separated at the trunk itself might indicate that it wasn t being climbed on that caused this - that lateral branch was a few feet thick at the trunk.
You can see how big the trunk is in the second picture - there is a fairly big octagonal bench round it - gives some idea of scale..
Not always unforseen. A local beech tree on private land but immediately next to the road had the base burnt out by fire. Obvious danger. My dad told the council. They have powers under the Roads Sotland Act to require the owner to sort it.
Nothing done over a number of months. First storm.
" A SCHOOLGIRL was in a critical condition last night after being crushed by a falling tree.
And the killer storms also claimed another victim when mum Kathleen Nish, 43, died from injuries she suffered when a tree fell on her on Monday.
Angela Henshaw, 11, is fighting for her life after a tree crashed through a wall and fell on her as she walked with friends, causing severe head injuries.
The little girl - who is being treated at the Southern General Hospital in Glasgow - was freed by hero taxi driver Stanley Myers.
Still traumatised yesterday, he said: "Two of the girls managed to clamber out but one of the girls was trapped.
"There was a lot of blood on her."
The tree fell as first-year pupil Angela and 12-year-olds Sharon Copland and Gemma Powell, returned to classes at Douglas Academy, Milngavie, Glasgow. "
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/STORMS+CLAIM+MORE+V...
Nothing done over a number of months. First storm.
" A SCHOOLGIRL was in a critical condition last night after being crushed by a falling tree.
And the killer storms also claimed another victim when mum Kathleen Nish, 43, died from injuries she suffered when a tree fell on her on Monday.
Angela Henshaw, 11, is fighting for her life after a tree crashed through a wall and fell on her as she walked with friends, causing severe head injuries.
The little girl - who is being treated at the Southern General Hospital in Glasgow - was freed by hero taxi driver Stanley Myers.
Still traumatised yesterday, he said: "Two of the girls managed to clamber out but one of the girls was trapped.
"There was a lot of blood on her."
The tree fell as first-year pupil Angela and 12-year-olds Sharon Copland and Gemma Powell, returned to classes at Douglas Academy, Milngavie, Glasgow. "
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/STORMS+CLAIM+MORE+V...
Pincher said:
Too soon to speculate I think but it has been propped up like that for probably the best part of 20 or 30 years I reckon and will have been clambered over throughout that time - guess that something caused it to snap but who knows what?
The fact that it seems to have separated at the trunk itself might indicate that it wasn t being climbed on that caused this - that lateral branch was a few feet thick at the trunk.
You can see how big the trunk is in the second picture - there is a fairly big octagonal bench round it - gives some idea of scale..
Seems a hell of a coincidence that a tree that looks a dead cert for climbing has collapsed at a moment in time where a load of kids were around it.The fact that it seems to have separated at the trunk itself might indicate that it wasn t being climbed on that caused this - that lateral branch was a few feet thick at the trunk.
You can see how big the trunk is in the second picture - there is a fairly big octagonal bench round it - gives some idea of scale..
No doubt there will be an inquest so we'll find out.
The council are ****ed IMHO. They've effectively been providing a completely unpredictable Russian Roulette climbing frame.
Edited by BikeBikeBIke on Saturday 28th June 23:52
Local to me.
I use a different park when walking my dog, and over the years quite a few trees have been cut down, and someone always moans!
About a month ago a tree was felled, and the trunk was left in place on the ground for a 'bug house', the inside of the trunk was rotten, but looked ok from the outside.
I use a different park when walking my dog, and over the years quite a few trees have been cut down, and someone always moans!
About a month ago a tree was felled, and the trunk was left in place on the ground for a 'bug house', the inside of the trunk was rotten, but looked ok from the outside.
t just happens, its not possible to make the world safe at all times for everyone, nore should it beSee one or two tree specialists have commented above.
Can I ask what the reason might be for propping the lower limbs as appears was the case in the photos above?
If the tree is healthy, but of an age where the lower limbs are large & unable to hold their own weight without resting on the ground, what is the logic behind supporting them rather than just cutting them off?
Can I ask what the reason might be for propping the lower limbs as appears was the case in the photos above?
If the tree is healthy, but of an age where the lower limbs are large & unable to hold their own weight without resting on the ground, what is the logic behind supporting them rather than just cutting them off?
OzzyR1 said:
See one or two tree specialists have commented above.
Can I ask what the reason might be for propping the lower limbs as appears was the case in the photos above?
If the tree is healthy, but of an age where the lower limbs are large & unable to hold their own weight without resting on the ground, what is the logic behind supporting them rather than just cutting them off?
By removing large limbs from a tree, it increases the risk of infection setting in. The less that is removed the better but weight could be reduced from tips.Can I ask what the reason might be for propping the lower limbs as appears was the case in the photos above?
If the tree is healthy, but of an age where the lower limbs are large & unable to hold their own weight without resting on the ground, what is the logic behind supporting them rather than just cutting them off?
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