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Article on BBC news at lunch time about the case against UK energy forms forcing pre payment meters on customers. They cited and example of a "victim" of this, a chap who at the time of forced entry was away on holiday with his family!
Does this not sum up the sense of entitlement, lack of responsibility and lack of priority of Joe Public in the UK right now?
I don't like the idea of companies being legally able to force entry into private property, but then if this is what we are up against to make people pay what they owe then what else can be done?
Perhaps we bring back debtors prisons?
Does this not sum up the sense of entitlement, lack of responsibility and lack of priority of Joe Public in the UK right now?
I don't like the idea of companies being legally able to force entry into private property, but then if this is what we are up against to make people pay what they owe then what else can be done?
Perhaps we bring back debtors prisons?
Edited by Tom8 on Wednesday 28th May 16:45
Ignoring the SI linear measurements for the moment...
I suspect there is more to this.
Clearly, when used a s a tool to get people who don't want to pay, to actually start paying for their usage, it would seem fair enough.
However, people who are struggling to pay seem to have been effectively put on higher (pre-pay) tariffs making their situation worse.
I have experienced a situation where the supplier - through a billing error - suddenly demanded over £3k. They were fine, and it was paid off over a period, with no suggestion of meter changes etc. I suspect that people who don't engage with the suppliers may fall foul.
If the metering companies are acting outside the law including illegally entering your house (i.e. without the relevant Court order if this is required) then something is not right.
However, surely compensation should be limited to the difference of what they have paid to what they should have paid... eg. if a pre-pay tariff is more expensive than a 'standard' tariff the customer should only get a refund of the difference.
Of course - there are those who will jump on this and want something for nothing.
I suspect there is more to this.
Clearly, when used a s a tool to get people who don't want to pay, to actually start paying for their usage, it would seem fair enough.
However, people who are struggling to pay seem to have been effectively put on higher (pre-pay) tariffs making their situation worse.
I have experienced a situation where the supplier - through a billing error - suddenly demanded over £3k. They were fine, and it was paid off over a period, with no suggestion of meter changes etc. I suspect that people who don't engage with the suppliers may fall foul.
If the metering companies are acting outside the law including illegally entering your house (i.e. without the relevant Court order if this is required) then something is not right.
However, surely compensation should be limited to the difference of what they have paid to what they should have paid... eg. if a pre-pay tariff is more expensive than a 'standard' tariff the customer should only get a refund of the difference.
Of course - there are those who will jump on this and want something for nothing.
Edited by No ideas for a name on Wednesday 28th May 16:58
mick987 said:
Countdown said:
Happened to a former tenant of mine.
It seems it was something she did regularly- rent a new house, stop paying any bills, live there for the 6-12 months it would take to get her evicted, move on, rinse and repeat
How would she pass a credit check on the new property?It seems it was something she did regularly- rent a new house, stop paying any bills, live there for the 6-12 months it would take to get her evicted, move on, rinse and repeat
Countdown said:
Happened to a former tenant of mine.
It seems it was something she did regularly- rent a new house, stop paying any bills, live there for the 6-12 months it would take to get her evicted, move on, rinse and repeat
You need a new letting agent if they are accepting tenants like that!It seems it was something she did regularly- rent a new house, stop paying any bills, live there for the 6-12 months it would take to get her evicted, move on, rinse and repeat
TonyRPH said:
Gary C said:
KAgantua said:
More overreach from our imperial masters
I want people to pay for the work I do Thats not unfair is it ?
Gary C said:
TonyRPH said:
Gary C said:
KAgantua said:
More overreach from our imperial masters
I want people to pay for the work I do Thats not unfair is it ?
To take it further, this appears to be the corner shop sending the bailiffs round to a customer who, far from shoplifting, happened to pay by credit card but were a little late in paying the full bill.
As someone who once received a letter from NPower threatening to kick my front door down for having the temerity to be out at work on an occasion when their meter reader visited unannounced, frankly, f
k the energy companies, they’ve brought this on themselves.alangla said:
To use the same analogy, your business makes cornflakes and supplies them to a cash & carry. Why do you care if someone is shoplifting them from a corner shop?
To take it further, this appears to be the corner shop sending the bailiffs round to a customer who, far from shoplifting, happened to pay by credit card but were a little late in paying the full bill.
As someone who once received a letter from NPower threatening to kick my front door down for having the temerity to be out at work on an occasion when their meter reader visited unannounced, frankly, fk the energy companies, they ve brought this on themselves.
Can't agree more that abuse can't be supported but neither can theft.To take it further, this appears to be the corner shop sending the bailiffs round to a customer who, far from shoplifting, happened to pay by credit card but were a little late in paying the full bill.
As someone who once received a letter from NPower threatening to kick my front door down for having the temerity to be out at work on an occasion when their meter reader visited unannounced, frankly, f
k the energy companies, they ve brought this on themselves.
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