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Wacky Racer

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39,767 posts

262 months

Monday 10th February
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj3eg3n11gvo

According to this he claimed he lost 8000 Bitcoins in 2013.

According to Google they were worth around £150 approx back then.

So:- 8000 x £150 is.....quite a lot.

Anyone believe this? (Not saying it isn't true)

scratchchin

Edited by Wacky Racer on Monday 10th February 12:20

ScotHill

3,710 posts

124 months

Monday 10th February
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Yes he’s been bking on about it for years.

tegwin

1,665 posts

221 months

Monday 10th February
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This has been going on for a while... seems nuts.

What are the odds of getting consent to dig up the landfill?
What are the odds of actually locating the hard disk?
What are the odds of that hard disk being in a readable condition?

This chap seems to be in denial and perhaps should seek phycological help.

bloomen

8,457 posts

174 months

Monday 10th February
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If he was an early miner it would've been very possible to create that many coins.

Hard to sympathise with someone who didn't back them up. I still have twenty year old wifi passwords in .txt files.

8000 coins in 2013 was a substantial amount, let alone now.

There's a million billion regulations around landfill which means he'll never get his day in court, or muck.


tegwin said:
What are the odds of actually locating the hard disk?
What are the odds of that hard disk being in a readable condition?
There'll be a sector allocated to the time it was picked up. It won't be a total guess.

If it could be found it should be fully recoverable. The only bit that needs to survive is the drive platters and they'll be sealed and there may not be much pressure on the case.

ScotHill

3,710 posts

124 months

Monday 10th February
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This article has an interview from twelve years ago where he seems a lot more resigned to his fate, although back then it was only worth £4m.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wal...

I'm sure there's a legal thing that as soon as the council pick up rubbish or deposit it in landfill it doesn't belong to the owner anymore, so maybe they have secret scuba cavers that are searching the landfill from the bottom up....

Mr Pointy

12,552 posts

174 months

Monday 10th February
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bloomen said:
If it could be found it should be fully recoverable. The only bit that needs to survive is the drive platters and they'll be sealed and there may not be much pressure on the case.
I don't think spinning rust HHDs are sealed are they? There's a pressure equalising hole with very fine filter to stop the case deforming with changes in external pressure.

bloomen

8,457 posts

174 months

Monday 10th February
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Mr Pointy said:
I don't think spinning rust HHDs are sealed are they? There's a pressure equalising hole with very fine filter to stop the case deforming with changes in external pressure.
Indeed, but it'll be in a bag and will probably be surrounded by dry waste. Maybe some appetising juices will be swirling around by now.

Muzzer79

12,064 posts

202 months

Monday 10th February
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You can't blame the guy for trying, when there's that much money at stake.

I wonder who his 'investors' are though and what he has to convince them this is not all a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.

Even if the council do sell him the land, I would imagine that the serious legislation surrounding landfill which prevents him from searching it now would still be applied post-sale.

bloomen

8,457 posts

174 months

Monday 10th February
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nuyorican said:
To be honest, It does seem to be a case of council just being obstinate for the hell of it.
It's likely exceedingly easy to underestimate the humongous weight of regulation that'll surround something like landfill.

Even if they were massively on board their hands might be 100% tied.

But it's a council so they won't ever be.

ScotHill

3,710 posts

124 months

Monday 10th February
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nuyorican said:
To be honest, It does seem to be a case of council just being obstinate for the hell of it. I thought they were hard-up these days? I'm surprised they've not offered to split the proceeds on successful recovery and lower everyone's council-tax bills in the area as a result. But no.
Exactly - they could open it up to the local community for a family weekend, let the kids bring their buckets and spades, everyone have a dig-around, couple of deckchairs and some wind breaks. Could call it Newport-Upon-Methane.

Muzzer79

12,064 posts

202 months

Monday 10th February
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bloomen said:
nuyorican said:
To be honest, It does seem to be a case of council just being obstinate for the hell of it.
It's likely exceedingly easy to underestimate the humongous weight of regulation that'll surround something like landfill.

Even if they were massively on board their hands might be 100% tied.
This.

Landfill is landfill for a reason. Regulatory nightmare. You can't just allow third parties in on a treasure hunt.

I'm surprised he hasn't offered to buy the contents of the landfill to transport it to another place and search it there. Perhaps he has and that's a no-go too.

ChocolateFrog

31,959 posts

188 months

Monday 10th February
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I would guess that quite a few people have lost Bitcoin in similar ways.

Just maybe not quite as much.

Mercury00

4,225 posts

171 months

Monday 10th February
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Typical, usually the problem is the council won't empty your bins getmecoat

Type R Tom

4,123 posts

164 months

Monday 10th February
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What I don't understand about this is where do you even start. Is it logged somewhere where waste was dumped in a particular area of the dump at the time it was collected?

Murph7355

40,262 posts

271 months

Monday 10th February
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Man and world learn of a downside of bitcoin.


Actual

1,292 posts

121 months

Monday 10th February
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He should be fined for putting an electrical item in the general waste bin.

Otispunkmeyer

13,364 posts

170 months

Monday 10th February
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Muzzer79 said:
You can't blame the guy for trying, when there's that much money at stake.

I wonder who his 'investors' are though and what he has to convince them this is not all a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.

Even if the council do sell him the land, I would imagine that the serious legislation surrounding landfill which prevents him from searching it now would still be applied post-sale.
Do it and pay the fine after the fact probably. He'd have the money for it! If he found it that is, and still able to be read, which seems of microscopically slim chance.

TTwiggy

11,793 posts

219 months

Monday 10th February
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He could make more money by syndicating the dig to The History Channel.

Those grifters on Oak Island have played a blinder.

Radec

4,966 posts

62 months

Monday 10th February
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Reminds me of that guy that spent 10,000 BTC on 2 pizzas back in the day.

bloomen

8,457 posts

174 months

Monday 10th February
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Radec said:
Reminds me of that guy that spent 10,000 BTC on 2 pizzas back in the day.
That guy invented GPU mining so it's safe to say that he had many, many thousands more.

I wonder whether the person who paid for the pizza kept any of it.