Betting companies targeting customers

Betting companies targeting customers

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bitchstewie

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57,280 posts

222 months

Sunday 2nd February
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No idea where this belongs so we'll start here.

‘I lost 10 years of my life’: how UK betting giant’s unlawful marketing kept suicidal gambler hooked

You know it's an industry but you also know it's an industry that takes advantage of illness.

Petrus1983

10,205 posts

174 months

Sunday 2nd February
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I don't agree with a country being overly regulated but at the same time I feel gambling advertising should be banned in the same way as cigarettes were.

PM3

985 posts

72 months

Sunday 2nd February
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It stuck me the other day about this. I was watching a film on TV that was based in a casino , story line quite negative about gambling and what it does to people....... Of course the advertising breaks were lead by one of the ore common betting apps. ( cant remember which as I was fast forwarding thru ads)

I too am generally anti over regulation, but this one really struck me as "a bit off "

Puzzles

2,736 posts

123 months

Sunday 2nd February
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I’m a low regulation person but these companies are up there with tobacco companies.

thebraketester

14,908 posts

150 months

Sunday 2nd February
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Petrus1983 said:
I don't agree with a country being overly regulated but at the same time I feel gambling advertising should be banned in the same way as cigarettes were.
Agreed.


Buy our cigarettes......


^please smoke responsibly

Mr-B

4,009 posts

206 months

Sunday 2nd February
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thebraketester said:
Agreed.


Buy our cigarettes......


^please smoke drink responsibly
And alcohol too.

Denise Coates owner of Bet365 one of the richest people in the UK pocketed £158m last year and that was after taking a near 50% paycut.

Spare tyre

10,894 posts

142 months

Sunday 2nd February
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Petrus1983 said:
I don't agree with a country being overly regulated but at the same time I feel gambling advertising should be banned in the same way as cigarettes were.
My father in law is addicted, literally 100 of thousands gone

A email or poster etc will cost 1000s if he sees it
Some of it is because he is a numpty, some is the way he is wired

They’ve recently had to down size because of it, very frustrating to witness

bloomen

8,245 posts

171 months

Sunday 2nd February
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Puzzles said:
I’m a low regulation person but these companies are up there with tobacco companies.
When I were a nipper it was fruit machines, the horses, the odd dank casino that you wouldn't know was there unless you searched it out and that was pretty much it.

Should've stayed that way.

If I were president I'd gleefully wipe them all out and tell The People that they'll have to put the leg work in if they want to gamble from now on.

Juan B

488 posts

16 months

Sunday 2nd February
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Near enough every advert when the footy is on is a gambling ad.

Then you've got the pundits/ ex players etc being paid to promote loads of them too. Really don't know how they get away with it.


RayDonovan

5,353 posts

227 months

Sunday 2nd February
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Should be taxed to oblivion and regulated to an inch of their life. Profits made on misery


okgo

40,130 posts

210 months

Sunday 2nd February
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Mr-B said:
And alcohol too.

Denise Coates owner of Bet365 one of the richest people in the UK pocketed £158m last year and that was after taking a near 50% paycut.
She also built that business from nothing and takes her salary at 45% tax rate, which does soften the blow somewhat.

As someone who works with gambling companies in the online advertising world, they are regulated these days but I suspect it’ll continue to tighten in time.

g3org3y

21,441 posts

203 months

Sunday 2nd February
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bhstewie said:
No idea where this belongs so we'll start here.

‘I lost 10 years of my life’: how UK betting giant’s unlawful marketing kept suicidal gambler hooked

You know it's an industry but you also know it's an industry that takes advantage of illness.
Anyone interested should watch this:


g3org3y

21,441 posts

203 months

Sunday 2nd February
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Juan B said:
Near enough every advert when the footy is on is a gambling ad.

Then you've got the pundits/ ex players etc being paid to promote loads of them too. Really don't know how they get away with it.
I suppose they'd say the same argument can be made against alcohol.

It's fine for most people most of the time. Why should it be so harshly regulated if some people can't control themselves?


I think the difference is that in betting/gambling, the majority of money made is genuinely from a small subsection of people are are addicted and one could argue, exploited intentionally by the gambling companies.

wildoliver

9,131 posts

228 months

Sunday 2nd February
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RayDonovan said:
Should be taxed to oblivion and regulated to an inch of their life. Profits made on misery
Should be the start of it. Tax it to the point of not being a viable business, accept the inevitable loss of some prestige to sport that it brings (it finances the top echelons to a great degree) but enjoy a lot of sports becoming less elitist and more grass roots, and the huge tax income.

Then outlaw it. Illegal gambling will continue but will affect less people. I am very anti regulation normally.

bristolracer

5,701 posts

161 months

Sunday 2nd February
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There was an expose on the industry broadcast on radio 4 a couple of years ago.
Despicable business, the way the industry pulls people in, offers them vip days out and multitudes of incentives to keep gambling is appalling. When they have them hooked in they will not let them go and relentlessly pester them.
If any other industry worked this way they would be closed down.

okgo

40,130 posts

210 months

Sunday 2nd February
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Not really true now.

Most of the big firms have tech that allows them to segment people who are high risk to themselves and they’ll suppress them from marketing.

EmailAddress

14,191 posts

230 months

Sunday 2nd February
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Addictive personalities will move to the next thing in a heartbeat.

Social, mental health care is a better solution.

bloomen

8,245 posts

171 months

Sunday 2nd February
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EmailAddress said:
Addictive personalities will move to the next thing in a heartbeat.
It has fostered addiction because you can blow junior's university fund on your phone while having a dump.

That's rather more accessible, hidable and manageable - on the surface - than shooting heroin into your eyeball or drinking 8 litres of vodka.

If that portal wasn't wide open many might never have started on it.

K87

3,923 posts

111 months

Sunday 2nd February
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To target the weak is a shameful way of becoming rich.


As the son of a gambling father I abhor these pervasive adverts on TV and online. They bring misery to many.

Dingu

4,793 posts

42 months

Sunday 2nd February
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okgo said:
Not really true now.

Most of the big firms have tech that allows them to segment people who are high risk to themselves and they’ll suppress them from marketing.
It’s the lightest of light touch for an industry who can’t be trusted to do the right thing.