The Sun and Prince Harry
Discussion
I've searched but can't find any thread on this.
It was quite a victory for Harry yesterday, long fought too. Good to see the Sun take a pasting for once. Whatever you think of Harry and his wife, the stories of intrusion and what that did to his relationships with all those around him is appalling. The hacks, investigators, reporters/correspondents are all complicit and hopefully they can build a criminal case against a number of them as a result of this.
Be interesting to see how the "exclusives" go in the red tops now.
It was quite a victory for Harry yesterday, long fought too. Good to see the Sun take a pasting for once. Whatever you think of Harry and his wife, the stories of intrusion and what that did to his relationships with all those around him is appalling. The hacks, investigators, reporters/correspondents are all complicit and hopefully they can build a criminal case against a number of them as a result of this.
Be interesting to see how the "exclusives" go in the red tops now.
Agreed. The newspapers over-stepped a mark, and have lied and covered up about it ever since. Some of those editors and journalists need to be in prison for the initial intrusions and the tissue of lies they've constructed to keep themselves out of prison. So far, I think it's only the little people who have suffered any consequences, the procurers who built their careers and reputations on it have managed to weasal their way out of it for now.
Rebekah Brooks and Piers Morgan are entirely innocent and I dont want a bad word said about them. How could they have possibly known all this was going on when it was deliberately being hidden from them in plain sight.
It was obvious to anyone that that it was Meghan M was secretly pulling all the strings behind the scenes to make Rupert and Co look bad. She was playing the long game. Make the sun look bad and drive Harry into her arms. I tell ya it's true.
It was obvious to anyone that that it was Meghan M was secretly pulling all the strings behind the scenes to make Rupert and Co look bad. She was playing the long game. Make the sun look bad and drive Harry into her arms. I tell ya it's true.
sugerbear said:
Rebekah Brooks and Piers Morgan are entirely innocent and I dont want a bad word said about them. How could they have possibly known all this was going on when it was deliberately being hidden from them in plain sight.
It was obvious to anyone that that it was Meghan M was secretly pulling all the strings behind the scenes to make Rupert and Co look bad. She was playing the long game. Make the sun look bad and drive Harry into her arms. I tell ya it's true.
The Rebekah Brooks trial was so badly botched by the prosecution that she had to do very little to get off. There was a thread about it at the time but I can't find it in the search facility. Like her or not, and guilty or not, she's a very smart woman, and they prosecution completely underestimated her. She absolutely tied them up in knots without even breaking into a sweat. In the end, I'm surprised she didn't get compo for malicious prosecution. It was obvious to anyone that that it was Meghan M was secretly pulling all the strings behind the scenes to make Rupert and Co look bad. She was playing the long game. Make the sun look bad and drive Harry into her arms. I tell ya it's true.
Is there any way to go back and look at Leveson and it's validity and potentially lying under oath? I know a very prominent person in both the Harry story and who appeared in Leveson saying nothing went on. I have a video of him admitting to his publication bugging the Blair's phones in downing street hence why Blairs and probably others, never sued them.
Tom8 said:
I've searched but can't find any thread on this.
It was quite a victory for Harry yesterday, long fought too. Good to see the Sun take a pasting for once. Whatever you think of Harry and his wife, the stories of intrusion and what that did to his relationships with all those around him is appalling. The hacks, investigators, reporters/correspondents are all complicit and hopefully they can build a criminal case against a number of them as a result of this.
Be interesting to see how the "exclusives" go in the red tops now.
It's pleasing to see the gutter press getting some just desserts and, whatever one thinks of the victims, nobody deserves the kind of intrusion they received, nor is is justified.It was quite a victory for Harry yesterday, long fought too. Good to see the Sun take a pasting for once. Whatever you think of Harry and his wife, the stories of intrusion and what that did to his relationships with all those around him is appalling. The hacks, investigators, reporters/correspondents are all complicit and hopefully they can build a criminal case against a number of them as a result of this.
Be interesting to see how the "exclusives" go in the red tops now.
However, in terms of how stories are obtained and reported in the future? I think the blatant methods like phone hacking and so on are rightly in the past but let's not even pretend that this will give the press any kind of conscience or remove the ruthlessness by which they obtain what they want.
tangerine_sedge said:
Agreed. The newspapers over-stepped a mark, and have lied and covered up about it ever since. Some of those editors and journalists need to be in prison for the initial intrusions and the tissue of lies they've constructed to keep themselves out of prison. So far, I think it's only the little people who have suffered any consequences, the procurers who built their careers and reputations on it have managed to weasal their way out of it for now.
I'm not sure I'd describe the actions of those who hacked phones and the editors who published the stories, as overstepping. These were offences.I'm not sure it was Brookes who tied the CPS in knots. It would have been the defence. Money to throw at lawyers always helps. Bishop, the murderer of Karen Hadaway and Nicola Fellows, the 'babes in the wood', had his defence costs paid for by the News of the World, another immoral Murdoch paper, and they picked some expensive, and some might feel equally immoral, briefs and put them up against the CPS. Bishop went off to nearly murder again.
Murdoch, in his day, was more or less the equivalent to Musk, but without the latter's high moral standards.
Tom8 said:
Is there any way to go back and look at Leveson and it's validity and potentially lying under oath? I know a very prominent person in both the Harry story and who appeared in Leveson saying nothing went on. I have a video of him admitting to his publication bugging the Blair's phones in downing street hence why Blairs and probably others, never sued them.
Like the OP I was surprised that this story didn't get more attention yesterday. Harry's lawyer was very explicit that NGN had covered up evidence of wrong doing including deleting 30 million emails from their servers. I think several people at the Sun/NGN must be looking at perjury charges and potential prison time.I'm also amazed that the Mirror has escaped the same kind of scrutiny over phone hacking. In the early 2000s the 3am gossip columnists at the Mirror won an award for their scoop stories. When they went on stage to collect the award one of them told the audience that it was incredibly ironic to be given an award for celebrity scoops at an awards event that was sponsored by Vodafone... Piers Morgan was Editor of the Mirror at the time.
I think the entire news sector needs proper regulation. I see so many articles which are just outright lies and often inflammatory
I see "celebrities" or well known people on twitter quoting a Daily Mail article about them saying "that's completely untrue" or something similar
Yet the newspapers get away with it
I see "celebrities" or well known people on twitter quoting a Daily Mail article about them saying "that's completely untrue" or something similar
Yet the newspapers get away with it
redrabbit29 said:
I think the entire news sector needs proper regulation. I see so many articles which are just outright lies and often inflammatory
I see "celebrities" or well known people on twitter quoting a Daily Mail article about them saying "that's completely untrue" or something similar
Yet the newspapers get away with it
I sort of agree but think that the problem probably comes with how you define a sector. In the days of internet/social media etc I mean.I see "celebrities" or well known people on twitter quoting a Daily Mail article about them saying "that's completely untrue" or something similar
Yet the newspapers get away with it
Don't forget it wasn't just celebs - after Milly Dowler went missing (but before her body was found) the News of the World accessed ("hacked") her mobile phone voicemail box and listened to messages left. This also caused them to be deleted, meaning that family and police thought that she was alive and listening to them. Interestingly, Surrey Police knew about the illegal access because the reporter had even played a recording to the police, but they didn't take action.
Downward said:
Morgan’s come out of the whole business smelling of roses for decades.
Sums up the media world.
Piers are Brooks. Sums up the media world.
Either 10D chess grand masters or complete half wits that would stuggle to run a lemonade stall at a jumble sale.
Both situations entirely dependent on either being in front of a judge and jury or not.
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