Germany nursery stabbing

Author
Discussion

Spare tyre

Original Poster:

11,385 posts

145 months

Wednesday 22nd January
quotequote all

JuanCarlosFandango

8,953 posts

86 months

Wednesday 22nd January
quotequote all
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70k6x1x67ro

"Joachim Herrmann, Bavaria's interior minister, said the suspect was previously detained at least three times for violent behaviour, but was released after he had psychiatric treatment. He was due to return to Afghanistan after his claim for asylum was rejected."

Motive unknown.

All wearily familiar.

TopTrump

3,403 posts

189 months

Wednesday 22nd January
quotequote all
So sad, what a mess the world is in


markbigears

2,479 posts

284 months

Wednesday 22nd January
quotequote all
Poland and Hungary have the right idea

Getragdogleg

9,388 posts

198 months

Wednesday 22nd January
quotequote all
I guess he gets to stay in Germany for a long time now.

I'd prefer it if he was put up against a wall and shot once he is convicted of this crime.

vaud

55,140 posts

170 months

Wednesday 22nd January
quotequote all
Maybe it is best to detain people if their asylum has been rejected? Desperate people do desperate things.

TeamD

5,052 posts

247 months

Wednesday 22nd January
quotequote all
vaud said:
Maybe it is best to detain people if their asylum has been rejected? Desperate people do desperate things.
Violent criminals commit violent crimes. Will people never learn?

Rick_1138

3,858 posts

193 months

Wednesday 22nd January
quotequote all
That could have been me and my son, he's fine now but i took him to nursery everyday and while i like to think id try and defend him and myself you just have no idea how you would handle that.

Its getting very old seeing these stories, nothing will be done, its just part of life now, you see it with the arguments on a lot of the various posts on NPE, lessons learned, disturbed individual. but incels on the internet are where the real problems are.

I am starting to tune the news out of life a bit as its all becoming rather depressing and concentrate on my family more.

BikeBikeBIke

11,751 posts

130 months

Wednesday 22nd January
quotequote all
Rick_1138 said:
I am starting to tune the news out of life a bit as its all becoming rather depressing and concentrate on my family more.
Yeah, I can't save those kids but I can give my own kids a hug and a longer bed time story.

Colonel Cupcake

1,268 posts

60 months

Thursday 23rd January
quotequote all
I'm sure the usual suspects will be along soon to defend the perpetrator and the policies that brought him there.

JuanCarlosFandango

8,953 posts

86 months

Thursday 23rd January
quotequote all
Colonel Cupcake said:
I'm sure the usual suspects will be along soon to defend the perpetrator and the policies that brought him there.
And explain how it shows the dangers of the for right.

PlywoodPascal

5,907 posts

36 months

Thursday 23rd January
quotequote all
It doesn’t seem to me that the place the alleged criminal was born is the determining factor in the criminality.
This is someone with a psychiatric illness, presumably, given he was treated, who has committed a crime. Where they are from or why they were where they were seems less relevant.

I count the bigger tragedy as the fact that people get so ill that they end up committing acts like this, not that we allow people into our societies who are fleeing very unstable ones.

We need to look after each other better, not bolt the doors shut.

Getragdogleg

9,388 posts

198 months

Thursday 23rd January
quotequote all
PlywoodPascal said:
It doesn’t seem to me that the place the alleged criminal was born is the determining factor in the criminality.
This is someone with a psychiatric illness, presumably, given he was treated, who has committed a crime. Where they are from or why they were where they were seems less relevant.

I count the bigger tragedy as the fact that people get so ill that they end up committing acts like this, not that we allow people into our societies who are fleeing very unstable ones.

We need to look after each other better, not bolt the doors shut.
I'm sure there are plenty of socio-economic reasons why someone from a non western country may have increased chances of having serious problems.

Before i get jumped on that's not a racist statement, we should be able to look at the influences on those people coming to the west and establish wether they are at risk of being criminal, ptsd, poor education, poor mental health and even shallow gene pools are all factors a good immigration system should weed out.

Let us be honest, when we are dealing with animal imports the paperwork would is extensive and the paper trail long. you don't want diseased aggressive animals coming into the country, there is a good risk mitigation system in place, heck, to move animals around in the uk from place to place has very stringent checks and balances.

We need a good risk mitigation system for people or we have problems like the ones we wearily read about weekly.

Also, the usual suspects who will jump on this post can sod off if you think i am comparing people with animals, its about what we seem to be able to control and what we cant.


Edited by Getragdogleg on Thursday 23 January 12:01

JuanCarlosFandango

8,953 posts

86 months

Thursday 23rd January
quotequote all
PlywoodPascal said:
It doesn’t seem to me that the place the alleged criminal was born is the determining factor in the criminality.
This is someone with a psychiatric illness, presumably, given he was treated, who has committed a crime. Where they are from or why they were where they were seems less relevant.

I count the bigger tragedy as the fact that people get so ill that they end up committing acts like this, not that we allow people into our societies who are fleeing very unstable ones.

We need to look after each other better, not bolt the doors shut.
How about being kinder to the 5 year old boy or the bloke out for a walk in the park who were senselessly stabbed to death by a violent psychopath who shouldn't have been there in the first place?


Timothy Bucktu

16,182 posts

215 months

Thursday 23rd January
quotequote all
PlywoodPascal said:
It doesn’t seem to me that the place the alleged criminal was born is the determining factor in the criminality.
This is someone with a psychiatric illness, presumably, given he was treated, who has committed a crime. Where they are from or why they were where they were seems less relevant.

I count the bigger tragedy as the fact that people get so ill that they end up committing acts like this, not that we allow people into our societies who are fleeing very unstable ones.

We need to look after each other better, not bolt the doors shut.
I'm sure you mean well...I really do. But you just can't see it can you?
Certain idealogically driven people are coming from a different society. One that can not, and will not ever integrate with us. They are coming here due to persecution because they can't even integrate in the Islamic country they came from, such is their warped mind and inner hatred.
We've opened the floodgates to these people, and now we're paying the price.

mick987

1,680 posts

125 months

Thursday 23rd January
quotequote all
PlywoodPascal said:
It doesn’t seem to me that the place the alleged criminal was born is the determining factor in the criminality.
This is someone with a psychiatric illness, presumably, given he was treated, who has committed a crime. Where they are from or why they were where they were seems less relevant.

I count the bigger tragedy as the fact that people get so ill that they end up committing acts like this, not that we allow people into our societies who are fleeing very unstable ones.

We need to look after each other better, not bolt the doors shut.
When people in the west continue to think like this::::::: We are fked

768

16,728 posts

111 months

Thursday 23rd January
quotequote all
PlywoodPascal said:
It doesn’t seem to me that the place the alleged criminal was born is the determining factor in the criminality.
When will it?

Tom8

4,327 posts

169 months

Thursday 23rd January
quotequote all
768 said:
PlywoodPascal said:
It doesn’t seem to me that the place the alleged criminal was born is the determining factor in the criminality.
When will it?
Importing people from cultures where violence is rife, weapons are free, life is cheap and lawlessness exists, why are people surprised? They will always pull the race or "mental health" card as they will here, somehow defending the imported crime and barbarism we see in the UK and across Europe. It is not colour of skin it is cultural background that is so far removed from our own.

Crumpet

4,402 posts

195 months

Thursday 23rd January
quotequote all
mick987 said:
PlywoodPascal said:
It doesn’t seem to me that the place the alleged criminal was born is the determining factor in the criminality.
This is someone with a psychiatric illness, presumably, given he was treated, who has committed a crime. Where they are from or why they were where they were seems less relevant.

I count the bigger tragedy as the fact that people get so ill that they end up committing acts like this, not that we allow people into our societies who are fleeing very unstable ones.

We need to look after each other better, not bolt the doors shut.
When people in the west continue to think like this::::::: We are fked
Aren’t we just! PH seems to have a reputation for right-wing thinking but this is the only place I encounter so much left-wing apologist bleeding-heart liberalism.

I know in life we tend to mix with like-minded people but in the real world almost everyone I know or meet thinks European and UK immigration policy is destroying the fabric of our societies. The Europeans I work with talk about it very openly; a lot of them feel they’ve lost their towns and cities.

Ironically this thinking is throwing fuel on the moderate right and fairly normal-thinking people. Some of the comments I hear from very normal people are beginning to sound pretty extreme.

Gecko1978

11,428 posts

172 months

Thursday 23rd January
quotequote all
My 2 cents

1) we don't know why he did it could be psychotic in some way, could be desperate not to go back to Afghanistan or could be a terrorist

2) we do know if he had never been in the country it would not have happend