White supremacist jailed for asylum seeker attack

White supremacist jailed for asylum seeker attack

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s1962a

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6,430 posts

177 months

Friday 17th January
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7vddrjjgr0o

Got 22 years for that attack. He'll be out in his 50's, and hopefully would have been rehabilitated by then but won't hold my breath.

I am curious though - what is the fascination with Adolf Hitler for these far right extremists?

Gecko1978

11,422 posts

172 months

Friday 17th January
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s1962a said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7vddrjjgr0o

Got 22 years for that attack. He'll be out in his 50's, and hopefully would have been rehabilitated by then but won't hold my breath.

I am curious though - what is the fascination with Adolf Hitler for these far right extremists?
You know how some people are "lost in the world" and they get a hobby an latch onto it. So like me I have done a lot of Tough Mudder events I have T shirts a Mug eater bottle etc. Well instead of Sports or Stamp Collecting he chose Hitler. An went down the rabbit hole. Nazi ideology males sense if you think your problems are someone else's fault. You have to discount 1000's of others doing OK an believe if it weren't for X you would be doing well.

You then get echo chambers on line agreeing with you an you feel a bit of status from community. It's one reason I don't join the group forums about my hobby as while I do a lot of them it's not the sole focus in my life. This chap like XR or the ALF etc has made it his cause an well ended up trying to kill someone. I hope he never gets released

Hoofy

78,559 posts

297 months

Friday 17th January
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Sounds like he had deeper issues and was easily groomed by someone with similar ideologies. Probably an Andrew Tate fan as well.

bitchstewie

58,866 posts

225 months

Friday 17th January
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Quite.

Guess what? White people can be radicalised too.

s1962a

Original Poster:

6,430 posts

177 months

Friday 17th January
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bhstewie said:
Quite.

Guess what? White people can be radicalised too.
Well, they seem to be getting more organised.

https://metro.co.uk/2025/01/16/inside-fight-night-...

bitchstewie

58,866 posts

225 months

Friday 17th January
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Pretty much 1 in 4 of the UK terror threat according to Ken McCallum.

valiant

12,313 posts

175 months

Friday 17th January
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Who radicalised him?

BikeBikeBIke

11,749 posts

130 months

Friday 17th January
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Gecko1978 said:
Nazi ideology
Well yeah, but the Nazis didn't really have a coherent ideology. So you'd think anyone who got interested in them in the modern world with internet would would do 5 minutes research and realize they wee just talking crap on the hoof.

And the Nazis certainly weren't opposed to immigration, they were moving workers around by the trainload and as the 'empire' contracted Berlin was probably the most multi cultural city on the planet as all the foreign workers and soldiers retreated into Berlin.

Life is good but 22 years minimum seems light to me. Having said that, walking into your parole hearing with Hitler's signature on your hand and claiming you've changed is going to be quite a hard sell and removing a tattoo in prison is going to involve a rather painful and unhygenic process I would imagine.

Getragdogleg

9,388 posts

198 months

Friday 17th January
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bhstewie said:
Quite.

Guess what? White people can be radicalised too.
People of all of the skin colour ranges can be radicalised.

Isn't that what we are aiming for here? You know, seeing past skin colour and getting the wider public to realise that anyone can be an extremist.

fly by wire

3,872 posts

140 months

Friday 17th January
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Getragdogleg said:
People of all of the skin colour ranges can be radicalised.

Isn't that what we are aiming for here? You know, seeing past skin colour and getting the wider public to realise that anyone can be an extremist.
Stewie thinks that only whities are racist.

He needs a good rub-down with a damp Daily Mail.

entropy

5,979 posts

218 months

Friday 17th January
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Getragdogleg said:
bhstewie said:
Quite.

Guess what? White people can be radicalised too.
People of all of the skin colour ranges can be radicalised.

Isn't that what we are aiming for here? You know, seeing past skin colour and getting the wider public to realise that anyone can be an extremist.
This is the NP&E forum. Some PHers are triggered when they come across 'extremist' coupled with an Asian / Arabic name and we'd be on half a dozen pages by now of arguing back and forth.

Hoofy

78,559 posts

297 months

Friday 17th January
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bhstewie said:
Quite.

Guess what? White people can be radicalised too.
I thought we all knew that already.

bitchstewie

58,866 posts

225 months

Saturday 18th January
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Hoofy said:
I thought we all knew that already.
I think there's a lot of defensiveness about it on here tbh.

It came up on the Reform thread recently and when you point it out and everyone just puts their fingers in their ears and goes la la la.

Look at this thread. If this guy was an asylum seeker and he'd tried to kill someone we'd be on pages of rhetoric by now. What is it now six or seven posts?

Getragdogleg

9,388 posts

198 months

Saturday 18th January
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bhstewie said:
Hoofy said:
I thought we all knew that already.
I think there's a lot of defensiveness about it on here tbh.

It came up on the Reform thread recently and when you point it out and everyone just puts their fingers in their ears and goes la la la.

Look at this thread. If this guy was an asylum seeker and he'd tried to kill someone we'd be on pages of rhetoric by now. What is it now six or seven posts?
Yes, because there is the perception that your hypothetical asylum seeker should not be here and is now doing crimes that would not be happening if they weren't here.

They could be from anywhere, it's the status of the "right to be here" and them doing crimes while trying to remain here that generates the discussion.

Its like visiting someone at their house as opposed to breaking in and stting on the carpet.

Hoofy

78,559 posts

297 months

Saturday 18th January
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bhstewie said:
Hoofy said:
I thought we all knew that already.
I think there's a lot of defensiveness about it on here tbh.

It came up on the Reform thread recently and when you point it out and everyone just puts their fingers in their ears and goes la la la.

Look at this thread. If this guy was an asylum seeker and he'd tried to kill someone we'd be on pages of rhetoric by now. What is it now six or seven posts?
Ah, I see.

Iamnotkloot

1,711 posts

162 months

Saturday 18th January
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Seems like an appropriate sentence - let’s hope he reforms inside (though I doubt it).

bitchstewie

58,866 posts

225 months

Saturday 18th January
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s1962a said:
I am curious though - what is the fascination with Adolf Hitler for these far right extremists?
Just on this point.

Today's Daily Mail.


ChevronB19

7,819 posts

178 months

Saturday 18th January
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bhstewie said:
Just on this point.

Today's Daily Mail.

Don’t forget the famous ‘hurrah for the blackshirts’ editorial. To be fair, the Mirror did similar, although at the time Rothmere owned both ‘papers’.

bitchstewie

58,866 posts

225 months

BikeBikeBIke

11,749 posts

130 months

Thursday 30th January
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bhstewie said:
Look at this thread. If this guy was an asylum seeker and he'd tried to kill someone we'd be on pages of rhetoric by now. What is it now six or seven posts?
I think that shows the opposite. Nobody is on this guy's side so there's little or nothing to debate so we don't generate posts of argument.

If this guy was an asylum seeker loads of people would be some people defending him and playing it down and others arguing back saying he was a scummy scrote who needs decades inside there would be a squabble about it.

Short threads show agreement. Long threads show disagreement.