Nurse stabbed in A&E
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Jesus where do you even start with that 
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/great...
Fingers crossed.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/great...
Fingers crossed.
Poor woman. I simply cannot comprehend why you’d try and hurt someone who is trying to help you. From speaking with a paramedic it’s ridiculously common.
Red9zero said:
I have been in an A&E late at night a couple of times lately. The lack of security surprised me, particularly as 90% of the people there seemed to have mental health and/or drink and drugs issues, rather than a physical injury.
I suspect it’s impossible to measure but my guess would be 20% of the population (the dregs of society - and I’m comfortable calling them that) put about 50% of the load on the NHS. Is it possible to ever bring these people up to the level where they actually contribute to society? It feels like some sort of purge is the easiest solution. Might be a few legal and ethical challenges there, though. My sis was a Nurse and a “ specialist in a certain dept “ she was bloody good, highly regarded in her field.
One eve a seriously injured young child was bought in. My sis told the mother that the child was being kept in. The mother insisted that she was taking the child and attacked my Sis, getting her on the floor and pinning her down. It took 5 mins for security to arrive and drag the scum off of her. Traumatised my sis had to take time off. NHS management treated her appallingly. She never went back.
One eve a seriously injured young child was bought in. My sis told the mother that the child was being kept in. The mother insisted that she was taking the child and attacked my Sis, getting her on the floor and pinning her down. It took 5 mins for security to arrive and drag the scum off of her. Traumatised my sis had to take time off. NHS management treated her appallingly. She never went back.
The stats are quite scary.
Nurse critically injured in stabbing at Greater Manchester hospital A&E
"Nursing leaders have raised the alarm about a growing level of abuse faced by NHS staff. An NHS staff survey in 2023 found that 13.7% of employees had experienced at least one incident of physical violence in the past year. among ambulance staff, this figure rose to 27.6%."
Nurse critically injured in stabbing at Greater Manchester hospital A&E
"Nursing leaders have raised the alarm about a growing level of abuse faced by NHS staff. An NHS staff survey in 2023 found that 13.7% of employees had experienced at least one incident of physical violence in the past year. among ambulance staff, this figure rose to 27.6%."
Crumpet said:
Poor woman. I simply cannot comprehend why you’d try and hurt someone who is trying to help you. From speaking with a paramedic it’s ridiculously common.
You're definitely right that certain subsets of the population put disproportionate loads on the NHS, and while it's harsh to describe pensioners as the dregs of society like that, you're probably right that were unlikely to get much more out of them without legal and ethical challenges. Red9zero said:
I have been in an A&E late at night a couple of times lately. The lack of security surprised me, particularly as 90% of the people there seemed to have mental health and/or drink and drugs issues, rather than a physical injury.
I suspect it’s impossible to measure but my guess would be 20% of the population (the dregs of society - and I’m comfortable calling them that) put about 50% of the load on the NHS. Is it possible to ever bring these people up to the level where they actually contribute to society? It feels like some sort of purge is the easiest solution. Might be a few legal and ethical challenges there, though. b
hstewie said:
hstewie said: The stats are quite scary.
Nurse critically injured in stabbing at Greater Manchester hospital A&E
"Nursing leaders have raised the alarm about a growing level of abuse faced by NHS staff. An NHS staff survey in 2023 found that 13.7% of employees had experienced at least one incident of physical violence in the past year. among ambulance staff, this figure rose to 27.6%."
It's a national disgrace. I would be quite comfortable for anyone convicted of attacking emergency service workers to be shipped off to a biomass plant, pelletised then up the conveyor belt.Nurse critically injured in stabbing at Greater Manchester hospital A&E
"Nursing leaders have raised the alarm about a growing level of abuse faced by NHS staff. An NHS staff survey in 2023 found that 13.7% of employees had experienced at least one incident of physical violence in the past year. among ambulance staff, this figure rose to 27.6%."
I have a niece who is a nurse in a northern town hospital. The Urgent Care Unit is known to staff as 'Smackhead Central' at weekends with police in attendance on most weekend nights to prevent abuse and attacks on staff.
The scum who carry out this type of attack on medical staff should be dealt with in the strongest terms and I don't mean suspended sentences or even jail.
wc98 said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: The stats are quite scary.
Nurse critically injured in stabbing at Greater Manchester hospital A&E
"Nursing leaders have raised the alarm about a growing level of abuse faced by NHS staff. An NHS staff survey in 2023 found that 13.7% of employees had experienced at least one incident of physical violence in the past year. among ambulance staff, this figure rose to 27.6%."
It's a national disgrace. I would be quite comfortable for anyone convicted of attacking emergency service workers to be shipped off to a biomass plant, pelletised then up the conveyor belt.Nurse critically injured in stabbing at Greater Manchester hospital A&E
"Nursing leaders have raised the alarm about a growing level of abuse faced by NHS staff. An NHS staff survey in 2023 found that 13.7% of employees had experienced at least one incident of physical violence in the past year. among ambulance staff, this figure rose to 27.6%."
wc98 said:
It's a national disgrace. I would be quite comfortable for anyone convicted of attacking emergency service workers to be shipped off to a biomass plant, pelletised then up the conveyor belt.
Honestly it's fked up.I've seen a few "day in the life of" type segments in the local news where they've followed paramedics around and I don't get why on earth people would abuse them.
Not that it makes it acceptable but I assume the people doing it are scumbags who would abuse anyone and everyone but someone who's trying to help you?
It's abhorrent.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Jesus where do you even start with that
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/great...
Fingers crossed.
You start and end with.https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/great...
Fingers crossed.
Line crossed.
Life him off.
No remorse.
No remission.
Retire nurse on full pension.
E63eeeeee... said:
You're definitely right that certain subsets of the population put disproportionate loads on the NHS, and while it's harsh to describe pensioners as the dregs of society like that, you're probably right that were unlikely to get much more out of them without legal and ethical challenges.
I’m assuming you’re saying that tongue-in-cheek and you know full well I wasn’t including pensioners in that ‘dregs’ subset but, now you mention it……The local urgent care got closed and now we all have to go 40 miles to the next city where they are already snowed under with the drugged abusive dregs of society.
Then add in the frequent flier lowlife family who all turn up in a gang of 8 in their onesies because jaden-Tyler has possibly swallowed some "pills we had lying around".
Then the fights break out because "I woz ere first" and the drunk guy pissing up the wall and I would rather stitch myself up to honest.
Then add in the frequent flier lowlife family who all turn up in a gang of 8 in their onesies because jaden-Tyler has possibly swallowed some "pills we had lying around".
Then the fights break out because "I woz ere first" and the drunk guy pissing up the wall and I would rather stitch myself up to honest.
I'm always cautious when it's the Mail but it doesn't get any better.
Nurse who was stabbed in hospital's A&E department was 'attacked by a patient who got angry about having to wait': Medic fighting for her life
Nurse who was stabbed in hospital's A&E department was 'attacked by a patient who got angry about having to wait': Medic fighting for her life
My father was in intensive care for six weeks and I was often called in due to his condition. If I was working, I'd go in uniform. Three times A&E had called the police when no immediate units were available. That was 1979, so it's much worse now. They asked each time if there was anything I could do.
Twice, it was a case of talking to the person/offender, getting their details and sending them on their way.
The other time, a bloke had been stabbed in the arm, a slash. He had a knife and was threatening people who came near him, virtually closing the way to the emergency. You can guess my mindset. The nursing staff in ICU were a tremendous bunch and my family owed them a lot. I walked up behind the bloke, grabbed his bandaged arm in both hands, and told him if he didn't drop the knife I'd twist his wound apart and hold it until he went unconscious.
He dropped the knife and started to cry. The Mets turned up and took him away.
One of the nurses asked me if I would have done it. I sort of hoped I wouldn't. But then . . .
That incident got into the local papers (not my bit in it) as it was so unusual. That, though, was then.
We used to have a sort of 'resident' PC in Brighton A&E but, for reasons that escape me, it was deemed improper. They were forced to get their own security. Dreadful situation. There were lots of offences, not only public order. The PC was told there were a lot fewer walk-in offences when he was around. But, it seems, we shouldn't have the police walking around.
Twice, it was a case of talking to the person/offender, getting their details and sending them on their way.
The other time, a bloke had been stabbed in the arm, a slash. He had a knife and was threatening people who came near him, virtually closing the way to the emergency. You can guess my mindset. The nursing staff in ICU were a tremendous bunch and my family owed them a lot. I walked up behind the bloke, grabbed his bandaged arm in both hands, and told him if he didn't drop the knife I'd twist his wound apart and hold it until he went unconscious.
He dropped the knife and started to cry. The Mets turned up and took him away.
One of the nurses asked me if I would have done it. I sort of hoped I wouldn't. But then . . .
That incident got into the local papers (not my bit in it) as it was so unusual. That, though, was then.
We used to have a sort of 'resident' PC in Brighton A&E but, for reasons that escape me, it was deemed improper. They were forced to get their own security. Dreadful situation. There were lots of offences, not only public order. The PC was told there were a lot fewer walk-in offences when he was around. But, it seems, we shouldn't have the police walking around.
It might vary from NHS trust to NHS trust, but I've cornered both our PCC and the former MP to point out that their public support for "stiffer sentences" for assaults on emergency workers was utterly irrelevant as people just aren't getting charged for clearcut assaults on NHS staff, especially Ambulance crews.
The problem seemed to be that staff were in practice expected to be interviewed by Police and give statements at the end of their shift (not that Police would then be available anyway!). When they actually just wanted to go home, have a shower, and sleep / take over childcare / both of the above.
If ever you go anywhere and see a sign that says 'We do not tolerate assaults on our staff . . . ", it typically means that they do. If they didn't, you wouldn't need a sign!
The problem seemed to be that staff were in practice expected to be interviewed by Police and give statements at the end of their shift (not that Police would then be available anyway!). When they actually just wanted to go home, have a shower, and sleep / take over childcare / both of the above.
If ever you go anywhere and see a sign that says 'We do not tolerate assaults on our staff . . . ", it typically means that they do. If they didn't, you wouldn't need a sign!
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