Another day another stabbing
Discussion
anonymoususer said:
We can't stop this but we can punish for it. So life needs to feel more like life than 10 years etc.The inside of a London double decker bus will be dripping in CCTV, as indeed will the outside of it and just about everywhere else - just zero f**ks given, they must know they’ll be getting caught and imprisoned very shortly. How do we end up with a situation where people are so utterly detached from the consequences of what they’re doing, both for the victims and for themselves? Devastatingly sad situation all round.
Quite.
High on drugs or high on having been belittled by a different gang ?
High on drugs or high on having been belittled by a different gang ?
Southerner said:
The inside of a London double decker bus will be dripping in CCTV, as indeed will the outside of it and just about everywhere else - just zero f**ks given, they must know they’ll be getting caught and imprisoned very shortly. How do we end up with a situation where people are so utterly detached from the consequences of what they’re doing, both for the victims and for themselves? Devastatingly sad situation all round.
Gecko1978 said:
anonymoususer said:
We can't stop this but we can punish for it. So life needs to feel more like life than 10 years etc.There are many parts of the world where such crimes are much rarer, and they don't send everyone off to jail for life.
So how do we become more like those nations?
Promising drill rapper, makes a change.
I can understand why, without significantly more stop and search, the average kid would feel the need to carry something to protect themselves, which unfortunately only inflames the situation.
Terrible loss of life and another ruined, for probably something silly.
I can understand why, without significantly more stop and search, the average kid would feel the need to carry something to protect themselves, which unfortunately only inflames the situation.
Terrible loss of life and another ruined, for probably something silly.
dundarach said:
Promising drill rapper, makes a change.
I can understand why, without significantly more stop and search, the average kid would feel the need to carry something to protect themselves, which unfortunately only inflames the situation.
Terrible loss of life and another ruined, for probably something silly.
I'm *guessing* that this was the first day of term and that kids were already returning home. Has something been brewing throughout the Xmas break and this was the first opportunity to meet up/attck ?.I can understand why, without significantly more stop and search, the average kid would feel the need to carry something to protect themselves, which unfortunately only inflames the situation.
Terrible loss of life and another ruined, for probably something silly.
I hope that the attacker wasn't also just out of school - and had been able to carry the knife during the day.
The bus will have numerous cameras and the police probably know what the attacker looks like. Usually, an arrest should be fairly imminent.
What is concerning is that few people in the area seem all that bothered - just another 'nothing surprises me' event.
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oyster said:
Except we do want it stopped, or at least largely curtailed.
There are many parts of the world where such crimes are much rarer, and they don't send everyone off to jail for life.
So how do we become more like those nations?
In the short term, we can't. This is a cultural issue that will take a generation to solve if we actually start now. Banning knives, youth groups, whatever, will not work as this gang culture is ingrained in the youth in certain cities.There are many parts of the world where such crimes are much rarer, and they don't send everyone off to jail for life.
So how do we become more like those nations?
The real solution costs a lot of money, so it isn't a real proposition. We just perpetually ban things and other short term solutions that have little effect so it looks like we're doing something in the media. A zombie knife ban isn't going to prevent any knife violence, when standard kitchen implements are readily available........we need to change the culture and mentality.
Timothy Bucktu said:
Morning Sir Khan...nice to see you on PH.
Unfortunately, knife crime is a scourge around whole of the UK. Who's the mayor of Somerset?https://www.chardandilminsternews.co.uk/news/24839...
s1962a said:
Timothy Bucktu said:
Morning Sir Khan...nice to see you on PH.
Unfortunately, knife crime is a scourge around whole of the UK. Who's the mayor of Somerset?https://www.chardandilminsternews.co.uk/news/24839...
Where’s the link you meant to post ?
vixen1700 said:
As in Grange Hill or carpet fitting?Sad as any death is there is so much inevitability in all of these hence the bingo card of phrases used in reporting. Like the rest he will be "wiv da angles now. Bruv."
milesgiles said:
s1962a said:
Timothy Bucktu said:
Morning Sir Khan...nice to see you on PH.
Unfortunately, knife crime is a scourge around whole of the UK. Who's the mayor of Somerset?https://www.chardandilminsternews.co.uk/news/24839...
Where’s the link you meant to post ?
article said:
AVON and Somerset Police recorded 1,670 offences involving a knife from July 2023 to June 2024, a rate of 9.46 per 10,000 people.
The study, carried out by Get Licensed using data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS), found that the area had the fifth highest rate of serious knife crime in the country.
The study also found that Avon and Somerset recorded the highest rate of knife-related rape and sexual assault offences in England, at 0.44 per 10,000 people.
Why aren't you upset at those shocking figures of knife crimeThe study, carried out by Get Licensed using data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS), found that the area had the fifth highest rate of serious knife crime in the country.
The study also found that Avon and Somerset recorded the highest rate of knife-related rape and sexual assault offences in England, at 0.44 per 10,000 people.
oyster said:
Except we do want it stopped, or at least largely curtailed.
There are many parts of the world where such crimes are much rarer, and they don't send everyone off to jail for life.
So how do we become more like those nations?
Let's keep a balance. There are also many parts of the world where these crimes are far more common.There are many parts of the world where such crimes are much rarer, and they don't send everyone off to jail for life.
So how do we become more like those nations?
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Rehabilitation… let’s all take a moment for both victims. The one that stabbed, no doubt failed by his parents, society, country. A victim himself. The other probably wrong place wrong time or took the wrong path in life… again failed by either the parents, society or country.
If only we could put more money into these issues as it’s no one’s fault but society or the country!
Sorry tongue in cheek but any loss of life is very sad. No magic pill but the problem needs sorting in both the long term (changing early life conditions for these kids to make this pathway to gang and crime not be worth it) and in the short term by punishing severely those that commit these crimes and if appropriate make their parents pay as well. It can’t all be fault of society, money or country.
Mentality and basic elements of societal behaviour just as mutual respect, etc will take time to get back.
Islamic punishment is very harsh but at least on a stable Islamic country you don’t have this type of behaviour as widespread.
If only we could put more money into these issues as it’s no one’s fault but society or the country!
Sorry tongue in cheek but any loss of life is very sad. No magic pill but the problem needs sorting in both the long term (changing early life conditions for these kids to make this pathway to gang and crime not be worth it) and in the short term by punishing severely those that commit these crimes and if appropriate make their parents pay as well. It can’t all be fault of society, money or country.
Mentality and basic elements of societal behaviour just as mutual respect, etc will take time to get back.
Islamic punishment is very harsh but at least on a stable Islamic country you don’t have this type of behaviour as widespread.
Mandem disrespected the wrong fam innit.
Grippa, as in "grip the gat" bro, ya feel me.
Bruv what's your postcode?
As said at the top, life to mean life, and 10 years minimum for carrying a blade, and these little s
ts will soon stop. None of this "go to a class and tell everyone why you feel you need to carry" ste.
Grippa, as in "grip the gat" bro, ya feel me.
Bruv what's your postcode?
As said at the top, life to mean life, and 10 years minimum for carrying a blade, and these little s
ts will soon stop. None of this "go to a class and tell everyone why you feel you need to carry" ste.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff