Tik Tok Tik Tok
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So the US Congress has made a law that will see TikTok banned from the app stores 1 day before Trump becomes President.
I assume Trump as President can't just come in and over turn a law but will probably end up causing delay if the ban is delayed by the Supreme Court and then make law to over turn the old law. I spose worst case is that even if it is banned for a week, trump can do something to get it back anyway.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr4r1qrqw2vo
Is the SC going to go along with what Trump wants?
Is it realistic that TikTok will really be banned?
I've no problem with TikTok being banned but mainly because its a cancer on society but that is by the by.
I assume Trump as President can't just come in and over turn a law but will probably end up causing delay if the ban is delayed by the Supreme Court and then make law to over turn the old law. I spose worst case is that even if it is banned for a week, trump can do something to get it back anyway.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr4r1qrqw2vo
Is the SC going to go along with what Trump wants?
Is it realistic that TikTok will really be banned?
I've no problem with TikTok being banned but mainly because its a cancer on society but that is by the by.
Cold said:
Mojooo said:
I've no problem with TikTok being banned but mainly because its a cancer on society but that is by the by.
Is it? It's just a bunch of teenagers prancing about doing on trend dances, isn't it? Not to say I personally want it banned as such - more that I am not that bothered.
Cold said:
Mojooo said:
I've no problem with TikTok being banned but mainly because its a cancer on society but that is by the by.
Is it? It's just a bunch of teenagers prancing about doing on trend dances, isn't it? Douglas Quaid said:
It’s a data harvesting app. It has access to your contacts, photos and keystrokes and sends data about all of them back to China. Whether that’s something to worry about or not is hard to say. China say no, USA say yes.
As long as the yanks don't get hold of my data, it's all good Douglas Quaid said:
It’s a data harvesting app. It has access to your contacts, photos and keystrokes and sends data about all of them back to China. Whether that’s something to worry about or not is hard to say. China say no, USA say yes.
Thats not strictly true, using standard fine grained permissions you can deny it all access to contacts/photos and even to use the camera.In any case, is it any worse than all the other social media harvesting data via their apps/sites ? seems like they're ok because they are American...
Crafty_ said:
Douglas Quaid said:
It’s a data harvesting app. It has access to your contacts, photos and keystrokes and sends data about all of them back to China. Whether that’s something to worry about or not is hard to say. China say no, USA say yes.
Thats not strictly true, using standard fine grained permissions you can deny it all access to contacts/photos and even to use the camera.In any case, is it any worse than all the other social media harvesting data via their apps/sites ? seems like they're ok because they are American...
Also, its literally designed to hook the user and feed their brain as much slop as possible for as long as possible and then f
k up the attention spans of the users by brain training small regular dopamine hits.Yeah, Id like to see it burn in hell, not just be banned.
The argument i have seen elsewhere about banning stuff being bad because of "muh freedom" is a bit disingenuous as well, shall we let people use Asbestos freely, lead in petrol ? all the other myriad regulations come about because of actual harm done to either the general population or the end users.
Edited by Getragdogleg on Saturday 28th December 19:30
CoolHands said:
It’s a good app.
The trust thing is ridiculous cos FB, google and the rest are completely untrustworthy too.
Exactly this. How many times have I chatted to someone at work about 3D printers, then googled "onine 3D printers" and the next time I look at Facebook, I am inundated with 3D printer posts! The trust thing is ridiculous cos FB, google and the rest are completely untrustworthy too.
I go on TikTok each night to look at cat videos, car clips and general rubbish. I watched some of the Senate Committee's discussions on the so called dangers of TikTok and these concerns are being brought up by people that probably struggle to use a mouse and prefer rotary dial telephones.
Sporky said:
Murph7355 said:
Is Trump a TikTok fan? It's Chinese isn't it?
So are the guitars and watches he shills. The bloke flips and flops depending on what suits his ends.
Tik Tok is problematic because of it's very addictive nature.
It appears designed to reward the user for staying on its application by triggering dopaminergic responses, however the issue is it also encourages very short attention spans and rewards this but feeding more content designed to keep the user engaged.
So the app hookes you into mindless nonsense, keeps you engaged in short but stimulating activity and is literally a time waster. You may think this is just a bit of harmless fun, however people adapt and change behaviours when addicted to something.
It is not suitable for anyone with a brain that is still developing (so technically no one under about 25) as the short attention span is learned and sticks, harming the individual's ability to concentrate and focus. However, that doesn't mean to say those with a developed brain are not at risk of harm from it. If the application was moderated in it's usage, so say time limited to a few minutes it might be safer, but it isn't.
That is ignoring the issue for data privacy etc. The very fact that a Chinese company, part owned (or at least heavily linked) to the state is banned for use in China for its own children should be a cause for concern.
You could say the same about other applications, and you would be right to. All social media has its risks and all must be used in moderation.
This is quite an interesting article I read some time ago about the issues with the platform. https://www.gurwinder.blog/p/tiktok-may-be-a-chine...
It appears designed to reward the user for staying on its application by triggering dopaminergic responses, however the issue is it also encourages very short attention spans and rewards this but feeding more content designed to keep the user engaged.
So the app hookes you into mindless nonsense, keeps you engaged in short but stimulating activity and is literally a time waster. You may think this is just a bit of harmless fun, however people adapt and change behaviours when addicted to something.
It is not suitable for anyone with a brain that is still developing (so technically no one under about 25) as the short attention span is learned and sticks, harming the individual's ability to concentrate and focus. However, that doesn't mean to say those with a developed brain are not at risk of harm from it. If the application was moderated in it's usage, so say time limited to a few minutes it might be safer, but it isn't.
That is ignoring the issue for data privacy etc. The very fact that a Chinese company, part owned (or at least heavily linked) to the state is banned for use in China for its own children should be a cause for concern.
You could say the same about other applications, and you would be right to. All social media has its risks and all must be used in moderation.
This is quite an interesting article I read some time ago about the issues with the platform. https://www.gurwinder.blog/p/tiktok-may-be-a-chine...
The root of the argument to ban tik tok is that the software is written by a Chinese company which ihas obligations to the PLA.
Have a look at the work done where Strava data was used to figure out which subscribers were serving on US government sites overseas. That's only GPS data.
Imagine how useful audio visual and location data is to a rival power.
Have a look at the work done where Strava data was used to figure out which subscribers were serving on US government sites overseas. That's only GPS data.
Imagine how useful audio visual and location data is to a rival power.
Edited by 100SRV on Saturday 28th December 22:07
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