US Police shoot someone 6 times as he wrestles burglar
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....then tell him to "Stay down".
Equal parts insane and tragic.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckglp4nz75zo
Equal parts insane and tragic.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckglp4nz75zo
BrettMRC said:
....then tell him to "Stay down".
Equal parts insane and tragic.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckglp4nz75zo
You’d think the wearing of a ski-mask indoors might indicate which of two people is more likely to be the criminal?Equal parts insane and tragic.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckglp4nz75zo
The rozzers was brave to go into the house in the first place after shots had already been fired. I wouldn't have.
I suspect they shot the guy who looked like he had a weapon and appeared to have the upper hand. Presumably for fear he'd kill the woman or fire at them.
Tragic but forgivable mistake.
I hope they throw the book at the bunny boiler.
I suspect they shot the guy who looked like he had a weapon and appeared to have the upper hand. Presumably for fear he'd kill the woman or fire at them.
Tragic but forgivable mistake.
I hope they throw the book at the bunny boiler.
Edited by BikeBikeBIke on Thursday 21st November 08:14
stuthemongoose said:
It wasn’t a burglar, it looks like a jilted ex lover gone bunny boiler.
I had to reread the article when at the bottom said they were ina romantic relationship, the person with the knife is female.
Cops shot the man
If you see a man grappling with a woman you are likely going to assume he is the aggressor. That is likely why this happened. I had to reread the article when at the bottom said they were ina romantic relationship, the person with the knife is female.
Cops shot the man
JagLover said:
stuthemongoose said:
It wasn’t a burglar, it looks like a jilted ex lover gone bunny boiler.
I had to reread the article when at the bottom said they were ina romantic relationship, the person with the knife is female.
Cops shot the man
If you see a man grappling with a woman you are likely going to assume he is the aggressor. That is likely why this happened. I had to reread the article when at the bottom said they were ina romantic relationship, the person with the knife is female.
Cops shot the man
BrettMRC said:
Even if that person is the one fully clothed and wearing a mask?
Doesn't appear to be wearing a mask from the video?, looks to be wearing some sort of head covering. The image quality is poor but that seems to be case and you can tell who is male and female from a glance.
There was a society collecting for deaf mutes in a smallish town. They had identification. One chap knocked on a door and, as he reached for his identification, the house owner shot him and killed him. The charity was sued, I seem to remember by more than one party. It was heavily criticised for putting the deceased in such a dangerous position, ie knocking on a door.
The home owner was neither criticised nor prosecuted. It's an odd country.
The home owner was neither criticised nor prosecuted. It's an odd country.
Law enforcement in the US is insane.
There are thousands of videos on YouTube of US cops doing absolutely crazy things. Shooting the wrong people, being violent towards citizens, beating up handcuffed suspects, attacking victims, arresting people for utterly spurious reasons, planting evidence, conspiring with their colleagues to make up false charges on someone, and everything else you can think of.
Apparently one of the most commonly occurring things that happens in the US is that cops try to falsify charges on someone who they have detained or handcuffed, who hasn't actually committed any crimes. They do this due to the lawsuit culture in the US. If they handcuff or arrest someone without probable cause, they can be sued heavily for civil rights violations, both personally as well as their Police department, so they always try to find a charge on something, anything, to try to show that they had cause to put the cuffs on.
Some police academy training schedules can be as short as 6 weeks, before they are sent out with a badge and gun, which probably explains a lot.
There are thousands of videos on YouTube of US cops doing absolutely crazy things. Shooting the wrong people, being violent towards citizens, beating up handcuffed suspects, attacking victims, arresting people for utterly spurious reasons, planting evidence, conspiring with their colleagues to make up false charges on someone, and everything else you can think of.
Apparently one of the most commonly occurring things that happens in the US is that cops try to falsify charges on someone who they have detained or handcuffed, who hasn't actually committed any crimes. They do this due to the lawsuit culture in the US. If they handcuff or arrest someone without probable cause, they can be sued heavily for civil rights violations, both personally as well as their Police department, so they always try to find a charge on something, anything, to try to show that they had cause to put the cuffs on.
Some police academy training schedules can be as short as 6 weeks, before they are sent out with a badge and gun, which probably explains a lot.
JagLover said:
BrettMRC said:
Even if that person is the one fully clothed and wearing a mask?
Doesn't appear to be wearing a mask from the video?, looks to be wearing some sort of head covering. The image quality is poor but that seems to be case and you can tell who is male and female from a glance.
Even so, I find it very hard to find a reason for the additional 5 shots, and can't really see a good reason for the first.
BrettMRC said:
JagLover said:
BrettMRC said:
Even if that person is the one fully clothed and wearing a mask?
Doesn't appear to be wearing a mask from the video?, looks to be wearing some sort of head covering. The image quality is poor but that seems to be case and you can tell who is male and female from a glance.
Even so, I find it very hard to find a reason for the additional 5 shots, and can't really see a good reason for the first.
Split second decision. He's in a dark house, he knows shots have already been fired.
BoRED S2upid said:
BrettMRC said:
I watched it on a phone earlier and it looked like a mask, on the bigger screen it is indeed a hood.
Even so, I find it very hard to find a reason for the additional 5 shots, and can't really see a good reason for the first.
Six does seem a little extreme. Even so, I find it very hard to find a reason for the additional 5 shots, and can't really see a good reason for the first.
- As to the lead up, misidentification etc...
Mont Blanc said:
Law enforcement in the US is insane.
There are thousands of videos on YouTube of US cops doing absolutely crazy things. Shooting the wrong people, being violent towards citizens, beating up handcuffed suspects, attacking victims, arresting people for utterly spurious reasons, planting evidence, conspiring with their colleagues to make up false charges on someone, and everything else you can think of.
Apparently one of the most commonly occurring things that happens in the US is that cops try to falsify charges on someone who they have detained or handcuffed, who hasn't actually committed any crimes. They do this due to the lawsuit culture in the US. If they handcuff or arrest someone without probable cause, they can be sued heavily for civil rights violations, both personally as well as their Police department, so they always try to find a charge on something, anything, to try to show that they had cause to put the cuffs on.
Some police academy training schedules can be as short as 6 weeks, before they are sent out with a badge and gun, which probably explains a lot.
Risk profile is totally different for the US for their cops. There are thousands of videos on YouTube of US cops doing absolutely crazy things. Shooting the wrong people, being violent towards citizens, beating up handcuffed suspects, attacking victims, arresting people for utterly spurious reasons, planting evidence, conspiring with their colleagues to make up false charges on someone, and everything else you can think of.
Apparently one of the most commonly occurring things that happens in the US is that cops try to falsify charges on someone who they have detained or handcuffed, who hasn't actually committed any crimes. They do this due to the lawsuit culture in the US. If they handcuff or arrest someone without probable cause, they can be sued heavily for civil rights violations, both personally as well as their Police department, so they always try to find a charge on something, anything, to try to show that they had cause to put the cuffs on.
Some police academy training schedules can be as short as 6 weeks, before they are sent out with a badge and gun, which probably explains a lot.
Not excusing this but when you have so many guns in the hands of the public and they’re used in such a way (unlike other countries which have high gun ownership), then I expect a significant disproportion will continue.
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