Black bins emptied three weekly

Black bins emptied three weekly

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Southerner

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1,745 posts

59 months

Tuesday 12th November
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Only emptying the bins once every three weeks = council?!

https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2024-11-10/bl...

South Glos seem to have decided that’s how they want to do it, no doubt every other council will swiftly follow. Supposedly it’ll only happen after they’ve made it “easier” to recycle, but I can’t see it ending well. Local authorities seem hellbent on encouraging flytipping, I suppose it must be cheaper to clear that up than to send the bin wagons out…

I particularly like this sentence: “ These proposed service changes will provide savings to ensure the council continues to provide a viable ongoing waste service offer to residents. “

It almost makes it sound as if emptying the bins is doing the residents a favour, rather than it being a core function of what local councils exist and are paid for. Councils running as businesses isn’t going to end well, IMHO. They need proper funding to fulfil the roles they exist for.


Edited by Southerner on Tuesday 12th November 19:37

Marcellus

7,163 posts

226 months

Tuesday 12th November
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It’s called 1-2-3 and a lot of councils already do it…

As for the 1-2-3 it’s
1 - every week food bins
2 - every 2 weeks recycling
3 - every 3 weeks non recycling

Despite all the concerns it does actually work quite well!

ScotHill

3,527 posts

116 months

Tuesday 12th November
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Yep, amazingly Glasgow City Council have been on the ball with this in recent years. Garden waste and food every two weeks; paper and cardboard once a month; metal and plastics (including the dreaded yogurt pots and thin films) once a month; and general waste every three weeks. Can confirm that the world doesn't end.

Occasionally we put out the general waste after three weeks and the bin is only half full, so much of it goes into other recycling, and that's with two young children. We don't buy endless amounts of consumer crap though so we're maybe an outlier. smile

Randy Winkman

17,726 posts

196 months

Tuesday 12th November
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I'm not saying I'm convinced I agree with this, but I wonder if someone who has a problem with it can tell us what's in their non-recyclable waste? And that's a genuine question.

oddman

2,785 posts

259 months

Tuesday 12th November
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Randy Winkman said:
I'm not saying I'm convinced I agree with this, but I wonder if someone who has a problem with it can tell us what's in their non-recyclable waste? And that's a genuine question.
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Gareth79

8,039 posts

253 months

Tuesday 12th November
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The problem is if you forget to put the general waste bin out the night week you are f-ed...

I am alright Jack

3,848 posts

150 months

Tuesday 12th November
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Randy Winkman said:
I'm not saying I'm convinced I agree with this, but I wonder if someone who has a problem with it can tell us what's in their non-recyclable waste? And that's a genuine question.
What's recyclable and what isn't is different in different areas.

For example where I am at the moment food goes in with non recyclable.

Southerner

Original Poster:

1,745 posts

59 months

Tuesday 12th November
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For what it’s worth, we recycle whatever we reasonably can. We have a black wheeliebin for rubbish, green for recycling, box for the glass. However, we’re fortunate enough that we inherited two of each wheeliebin when we bought the house, which helps a great deal. Our collection is alternate weeks for each. To reverse the question, I wonder how many of those who feel it works well are young family households with, say, three or four kids. I can’t see one bin collection every three week working for a lot of those families.

We all know that we need to recycle and do what we can to cut down on waste, but squeezing and squeezing the reasonable facilities to get rid of it can only go so far. We have one black bin that’s fairly new, and one that’s getting on a bit. The newer one is smaller than the old one, and that isn’t unique to our local area by any means. So in recent years councils have both reduced the collection schedules and at the same time made bins smaller. Covid gave some local authorities an excuse to make household waste recycling centres considerably less accessible than they always used to be, requiring an appointment to get rid of your rubbish, whilst at the same time we’ve seen a massive societal shift towards having everything delivered to the door - wrapped up in packaging, of course. Cardbord boxes are great, the acres of non-recyclable plastic wrapping that we still see in society, not so much.

No issue with encouraging a sensible degree of environmental responsibility, but this seems to be more a case of reducing the supply and hoping that the demand just shrinks to fit. I don’t think it will.

Dog Star

16,486 posts

175 months

Tuesday 12th November
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Marcellus said:
It’s called 1-2-3 and a lot of councils already do it…

As for the 1-2-3 it’s
1 - every week food bins
2 - every 2 weeks recycling
3 - every 3 weeks non recycling

Despite all the concerns it does actually work quite well!
We have it here (Rochdale MBC) and it’s actually great for us

We have four different bins
- general crap
- Tins/plastics/glass
- cardboard/paper
- garden waste/food

They’re all big 240l wheelie bins, and as we have a big garden we have two garden bins so five bins in total. The bins rotate every three weeks and the garden bins go every week which is a mega bonus as we fill them both every time.

Only problem lately is cat litter - that makes up an easy 50% of the bin and weighs a ton.

eharding

14,147 posts

291 months

Tuesday 12th November
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Gareth79 said:
The problem is if you forget to put the general waste bin out the night week you are f-ed...
Particularly if you're caring for an elderly bed-ridden dementia suffering relative, and need to dispose of a large quantity of soiled incontinence material.

Back when I was doing so, the Mid Devon non-recyclable collection was every two weeks (now three), and in the summer it was grim - I threw up more than once when dealing with the 'Honey Bin' - can't be a nice job having to come and collect it either.

As an aside, I just Googled to see if Mid Devon had changed their policy on 'offensive' waste, and got the Google AI summary helpfully suggesting that you could "donate the items to a friend or advertise them on a site like Freecycle, Preloved, Gumtree, or Freegle".



Randy Winkman

17,726 posts

196 months

Tuesday 12th November
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I am alright Jack said:
Randy Winkman said:
I'm not saying I'm convinced I agree with this, but I wonder if someone who has a problem with it can tell us what's in their non-recyclable waste? And that's a genuine question.
What's recyclable and what isn't is different in different areas.

For example where I am at the moment food goes in with non recyclable.
If there's no regular food recycling collection I think it would be wrong for a council to go for longer than 2 weeks.

Randy Winkman

17,726 posts

196 months

Tuesday 12th November
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eharding said:
Gareth79 said:
The problem is if you forget to put the general waste bin out the night week you are f-ed...
Particularly if you're caring for an elderly bed-ridden dementia suffering relative, and need to dispose of a large quantity of soiled incontinence material.

Back when I was doing so, the Mid Devon non-recyclable collection was every two weeks (now three), and in the summer it was grim - I threw up more than once when dealing with the 'Honey Bin' - can't be a nice job having to come and collect it either.

As an aside, I just Googled to see if Mid Devon had changed their policy on 'offensive' waste, and got the Google AI summary helpfully suggesting that you could "donate the items to a friend or advertise them on a site like Freecycle, Preloved, Gumtree, or Freegle".
I take your's and Gareth's points about particularly "smelly" stuff. It is different for different households which is why I asked.

98elise

28,220 posts

168 months

Tuesday 12th November
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Marcellus said:
It’s called 1-2-3 and a lot of councils already do it…

As for the 1-2-3 it’s
1 - every week food bins
2 - every 2 weeks recycling
3 - every 3 weeks non recycling

Despite all the concerns it does actually work quite well!
We're still on all types being picked up weekly (Medway)

Works great.

Randy Winkman

17,726 posts

196 months

Tuesday 12th November
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98elise said:
Marcellus said:
It’s called 1-2-3 and a lot of councils already do it…

As for the 1-2-3 it’s
1 - every week food bins
2 - every 2 weeks recycling
3 - every 3 weeks non recycling

Despite all the concerns it does actually work quite well!
We're still on all types being picked up weekly (Medway)

Works great.
I guess it would work great for the residents.

Cloudy147

2,845 posts

190 months

Tuesday 12th November
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A three week collection would work for us but understand it wouldn’t work for everyone.

Sometimes I forget to put the bin out and so we go a month before the black bin gets emptied. It’s definitely full by then, but three weeks would be fine.

The advantage we have is that recycling is awesome here. We’ve got one recycling bin and in that goes paper, card, tin and plastic - which is most things. It’s nice and easy.

We have another bin for garden but my parents have another bin as they have separated recycling, which is too many bins for my liking.

Our council recycling approach is really good in my view, and as a result a three week collection would be fine here if they were to introduce it.

98elise

28,220 posts

168 months

Tuesday 12th November
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Randy Winkman said:
98elise said:
Marcellus said:
It’s called 1-2-3 and a lot of councils already do it…

As for the 1-2-3 it’s
1 - every week food bins
2 - every 2 weeks recycling
3 - every 3 weeks non recycling

Despite all the concerns it does actually work quite well!
We're still on all types being picked up weekly (Medway)

Works great.
I guess it would work great for the residents.
It does.

Weekly seems about right to me. We have near empty buses running day in day out past my house, so why not a rubbish/recycling truck once a week?

scenario8

6,821 posts

186 months

Tuesday 12th November
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Cloudy147 said:
A three week collection would work for us but understand it wouldn’t work for everyone.

Sometimes I forget to put the bin out and so we go a month before the black bin gets emptied. It’s definitely full by then, but three weeks would be fine.

The advantage we have is that recycling is awesome here. We’ve got one recycling bin and in that goes paper, card, tin and plastic - which is most things. It’s nice and easy.

We have another bin for garden but my parents have another bin as they have separated recycling, which is too many bins for my liking.

Our council recycling approach is really good in my view, and as a result a three week collection would be fine here if they were to introduce it.
One recycling bin?

ONE?!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c623wwyd73no.a...

abzmike

9,290 posts

113 months

Tuesday 12th November
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In Aberdeenshire we have:
1 - general non-recycling rubbish
2 - cardboard and paper
3 - plastic and metals.
Food waste weekly but don’t bother as I chuck it in the compost dalek, and the bins are at the end of the quarter mile track.
No garden or glass collection - which I find a pain.
As said, annoying if we miss a general waste collection, particularly in the summer.

gazza285

10,186 posts

215 months

Tuesday 12th November
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We are very lucky. There’s a back lane behind our house and some of the locals put their bins at the end of it for collection. Not all our neighbours have access to the back lane, so some put their bins out on the main road.

One windy day a bin blew down the back lane and into my drive, and despite asking around the locals, nobody claimed it.

I now put one bin on the road, and one bin on the end of the back lane. My immediate neighbours are welcome to put any excess they have in my spare bin. It is a good system.

Randy Winkman

17,726 posts

196 months

Wednesday 13th November
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98elise said:
Randy Winkman said:
98elise said:
Marcellus said:
It’s called 1-2-3 and a lot of councils already do it…

As for the 1-2-3 it’s
1 - every week food bins
2 - every 2 weeks recycling
3 - every 3 weeks non recycling

Despite all the concerns it does actually work quite well!
We're still on all types being picked up weekly (Medway)

Works great.
I guess it would work great for the residents.
It does.

Weekly seems about right to me. We have near empty buses running day in day out past my house, so why not a rubbish/recycling truck once a week?
Because it's expensive to actually do that and (in theory) encourages people to chuck out stuff that costs the councils money to dispose of.