Teenager dies on Mway after fleeing police vehicle

[Southerner]

This sounds a particularly unpleasant incident, thoughts with the police officers and the motorist(s) involved:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gzjyeqlpxo

“A 17-year-old girl died after being hit by a car on the M5 shortly after getting out of a stationary police vehicle, the police watchdog has said.”

[boyse7en]

What a terrible situation for everyone involved.

There's going to be lots of question about how a child vacated a police car on the motorway.

[Southerner]

boyse7en said:

What a terrible situation for everyone involved.

There's going to be lots of question about how a child vacated a police car on the motorway.

One might be inclined to wonder whether she had become distressed and caused the officers to feel the need to stop their vehicle, but of course it could be any one of many, many possibilities.

[cuprabob]

Southerner said:

boyse7en said:

What a terrible situation for everyone involved.

There's going to be lots of question about how a child vacated a police car on the motorway.

One might be inclined to wonder whether she had become distressed and caused the officers to feel the need to stop their vehicle, but of course it could be any one of many, many possibilities.

I would have expected the doors of the Police Car to be locked.

[DeejRC]

Unfortunately I was first up for that last night.
Nothing about last night was fun.

[Pincher]

DeejRC said:

Unfortunately I was first up for that last night.
Nothing about last night was fun.

Sounds horrendous and I extend my heartfelt sympathies to you and your colleagues that had to attend. those that witnessed it.

Edit to correct me getting the wrong end of the stick.

Edited by Pincher on Tuesday 12th November 16:33

[BikeBikeBIke]

DeejRC said:

Unfortunately I was first up for that last night.
Nothing about last night was fun.

If this means what I think it means, take care of yourself DeejRC.

[DeejRC]

I’m not plod. Just the first bloke rocking up behind it all.
For a no of reasons there are many things I could write, but frankly…I can’t.
No Bike it doesn’t. The one last year though…

[Southerner]

DeejRC said:

Unfortunately I was first up for that last night.
Nothing about last night was fun.

Horrendous, hope all concerned are duly on the mend, yourself included of course.

[Bigends]

cuprabob said:

Southerner said:

boyse7en said:

What a terrible situation for everyone involved.

There's going to be lots of question about how a child vacated a police car on the motorway.

One might be inclined to wonder whether she had become distressed and caused the officers to feel the need to stop their vehicle, but of course it could be any one of many, many possibilities.

I would have expected the doors of the Police Car to be locked.

...and one of the officers to be in the back with her - would have prevented this.

[redrabbit29]

cuprabob said:

I would have expected the doors of the Police Car to be locked.

If it's an unmarked car it may not have been. I'm not talking about an operational vehicle with covert blue lights, I mean a Vauxhall Corsa used to get from a-to-b. They're just standard cars.

[Southerner]

cuprabob said:

I would have expected the doors of the Police Car to be locked.

I’m sure they would have been whilst on the move, but of course for an officer in the front to be able to deal with somebody in the rear means the doors need to be unlocked, although I presume a second officer would already be required in the back seats?

Is there any sort of protocol for dealing with a distressed detainee in the rear of a police car, or is it something that officers just have to deal with if and when it happens? I presume some sort of dynamic risk assessment is carried out beforehand to decide whether a van is required or the back of a car is sufficiently safe?

[Greendubber]

Bigends said:

cuprabob said:

Southerner said:

boyse7en said:

What a terrible situation for everyone involved.

There's going to be lots of question about how a child vacated a police car on the motorway.

One might be inclined to wonder whether she had become distressed and caused the officers to feel the need to stop their vehicle, but of course it could be any one of many, many possibilities.

I would have expected the doors of the Police Car to be locked.

...and one of the officers to be in the back with her - would have prevented this.

Those are some big words considering the lack of knowledge, information and circumstances you have of this incident

How do you know there wasn't an officer in the rear, what if it was a van, what if she needed to be removed form the vehicle for a reason? (ofwhich there could be a few)

Maybe put your axe away before doing your usual trick of trying to bury in into the backs of the cops involved before you know what actually went on.

[Bigends]

Greendubber said:

Bigends said:

cuprabob said:

Southerner said:

boyse7en said:

What a terrible situation for everyone involved.

There's going to be lots of question about how a child vacated a police car on the motorway.

One might be inclined to wonder whether she had become distressed and caused the officers to feel the need to stop their vehicle, but of course it could be any one of many, many possibilities.

I would have expected the doors of the Police Car to be locked.

...and one of the officers to be in the back with her - would have prevented this.

Those are some big words considering the lack of knowledge, information and circumstances you have of this incident

How do you know there wasn't an officer in the rear, what if it was a van, what if she needed to be removed form the vehicle for a reason? (ofwhich there could be a few)

Maybe put your axe away before doing your usual trick of trying to bury in into the backs of the cops involved before you know what actually went on.

Lets wait and see - either way - theyve let a prisoner escape as a result of which she's died - theyll have some serious questions to answer

[Greendubber]

Bigends said:

Greendubber said:

Bigends said:

cuprabob said:

Southerner said:

boyse7en said:

What a terrible situation for everyone involved.

There's going to be lots of question about how a child vacated a police car on the motorway.

One might be inclined to wonder whether she had become distressed and caused the officers to feel the need to stop their vehicle, but of course it could be any one of many, many possibilities.

I would have expected the doors of the Police Car to be locked.

...and one of the officers to be in the back with her - would have prevented this.

Those are some big words considering the lack of knowledge, information and circumstances you have of this incident

How do you know there wasn't an officer in the rear, what if it was a van, what if she needed to be removed form the vehicle for a reason? (ofwhich there could be a few)

Maybe put your axe away before doing your usual trick of trying to bury in into the backs of the cops involved before you know what actually went on.

Lets wait and see - either way - theyve let a prisoner escape as a result of which she's died - theyll have some serious questions to answer

Yes, you should wait and see.

No one's saying they won't have questions to answer, but it's important people like you don't jump to conclusions for people to read on the internet when a young lady has sadly lost her life.

[Super Sonic]

Poor girl. How could that be allowed to happen. My sympathies to her family and friends, and all involved.

[Super Sonic]

redrabbit29 said:

cuprabob said:

I would have expected the doors of the Police Car to be locked.

If it's an unmarked car it may not have been. I'm not talking about an operational vehicle with covert blue lights, I mean a Vauxhall Corsa used to get from a-to-b. They're just standard cars.

Don't standard cars have childproof locks on the back doors?

[markymarkthree]

I have always assumed that you cant get out of a police car, unless the door was opened from the outside.
Any bobby's care to answer ?

[rohrl]

Horrible for the driver who hit her too. You can’t do much if someone comes running and jumping over the central reservation in front of you, but that’s not going to assuage the feelings of guilt and responsibility they’ll be feeling or the coming ordeal of the inquiry.

[Earthdweller]

Greendubber said:

Bigends said:

Greendubber said:

Bigends said:

cuprabob said:

Southerner said:

boyse7en said:

What a terrible situation for everyone involved.

There's going to be lots of question about how a child vacated a police car on the motorway.

One might be inclined to wonder whether she had become distressed and caused the officers to feel the need to stop their vehicle, but of course it could be any one of many, many possibilities.

I would have expected the doors of the Police Car to be locked.

...and one of the officers to be in the back with her - would have prevented this.

Those are some big words considering the lack of knowledge, information and circumstances you have of this incident

How do you know there wasn't an officer in the rear, what if it was a van, what if she needed to be removed form the vehicle for a reason? (ofwhich there could be a few)

Maybe put your axe away before doing your usual trick of trying to bury in into the backs of the cops involved before you know what actually went on.

Lets wait and see - either way - theyve let a prisoner escape as a result of which she's died - theyll have some serious questions to answer

Yes, you should wait and see.

No one's saying they won't have questions to answer, but it's important people like you don't jump to conclusions for people to read on the internet when a young lady has sadly lost her life.

100% grrendubber, bigends should know better

There is nothing to suggest she was a prisoner, nor any suggestion the Police have done anything wrong

Having worked on r the strip there could be many varied reasons why someone might be in a Police car on the M/Way

My thoughts go out to all involved and those that came across it, let's hope they get the welfare support they need