Alistair Wilson - Nairn Murder.
Discussion
Evening folks,
I always thought this was extremely weird, and an ultimately tragic event. Occams Razor may suggest mistaken identity? Perhaps?
There is so much about this case that is extremely odd.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crkdelm1530o
I just wondered what you folk think about it?
I always thought this was extremely weird, and an ultimately tragic event. Occams Razor may suggest mistaken identity? Perhaps?
There is so much about this case that is extremely odd.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crkdelm1530o
I just wondered what you folk think about it?
Mistaken identity seems unlikely, given the killer asked for Alistair by name before shooting him, but perhaps Alistair was mis-identified as being involved in something he wasn't. Reading back through old articles, the possibility of an objection to a pub expanding their decking seems to be a potential motive, a pretty crazy thing to kill someone over if it was actually that.
The envelope with the name 'Paul' on it is the most interesting part to me. Why not just shoot Alistair as soon as he appeared? It's very unusual.
The envelope with the name 'Paul' on it is the most interesting part to me. Why not just shoot Alistair as soon as he appeared? It's very unusual.
Its a strange one and its easy to see why the Family feel forgotten . I think back to the time it took to solve the Rene Macrae case despite the fact there was only ever one real suspect in most peoples minds and indeed he was eventually found guilty .The Planning Permission theory if it is that is a very strange one .
reddiesel said:
It seems yet another Case where Police Scotland haven't covered themselves in Glory and there have been plenty other examples . Ann Gloag and the Slavery Case , SNP and the Financial Irregularities are two that readily spring to mind . Glacial .
Can you explain exactly what the police have done wrong? In detail, please, in this case? I've followed this closely from the start. Alistair was in my year at secondary school.
Any time I meet up with old school friends we usually end up talking about it.
There are many things with the case that don't add up, don't make sense. I suppose that's why the police have made little progress.
IMO it's either a mix up / mistaken identity or he was involved in something dodgy nobody knew about.
I lean towards the first one.
Any time I meet up with old school friends we usually end up talking about it.
There are many things with the case that don't add up, don't make sense. I suppose that's why the police have made little progress.
IMO it's either a mix up / mistaken identity or he was involved in something dodgy nobody knew about.
I lean towards the first one.
I'd forgotten about this case
It's a truly odd one, no motive, no history, no leads
Murders are usually one of the easiest crimes to solve as the offender is generally known to the victim
The chances of an innocent totally law abiding citizen being murdered in this fashion must be astonishingly rare
Someone somewhere clearly knows why .. but without a break the Police are on a hiding to nothing with it
It's a truly odd one, no motive, no history, no leads
Murders are usually one of the easiest crimes to solve as the offender is generally known to the victim
The chances of an innocent totally law abiding citizen being murdered in this fashion must be astonishingly rare
Someone somewhere clearly knows why .. but without a break the Police are on a hiding to nothing with it
eldar said:
reddiesel said:
It seems yet another Case where Police Scotland haven't covered themselves in Glory and there have been plenty other examples . Ann Gloag and the Slavery Case , SNP and the Financial Irregularities are two that readily spring to mind . Glacial .
Can you explain exactly what the police have done wrong? In detail, please, in this case? This case has also held my attention and I do check regularly for press updates etc. The Police may have questions to answer in their approach- the family certainly think so. Although the Police do seem to have looked at his work for the Bank, then at mistaken identity (with other Alistair Wilson's in the country investigated and spoken to. Even the mans wife was looked at as his personal life was investigated.
The only logical conclusions to draw are either mistaken identity, mistaken culpability over something he has done in a work sense, the frankly astonishing summation that someone would kill over a pub decking objection- or the very possible assertion that the man was involved with something or somebody that nobody knew about. It is possible, for example, that somebody had exerted pressure on him in relation to his work. If that person had a lot of money at stake and the victim had refused to buckle- then that is a distinct motive. How this series of events could occur with no discernible tech trail, even in 2004, is harder to reason.
I fear that this horrendous crime will not be solved after such a passage of time without any clear progress. Although, it is possible that after many years and interested parties deaths, then somebody could feel emboldened to speak out if indeed anyone other than the killer knows the truth. Indeed, I think there was a radio phone in a few years ago where a caller alluded to knowing- maybe somebody who wasn't directly involved actually does.
The only logical conclusions to draw are either mistaken identity, mistaken culpability over something he has done in a work sense, the frankly astonishing summation that someone would kill over a pub decking objection- or the very possible assertion that the man was involved with something or somebody that nobody knew about. It is possible, for example, that somebody had exerted pressure on him in relation to his work. If that person had a lot of money at stake and the victim had refused to buckle- then that is a distinct motive. How this series of events could occur with no discernible tech trail, even in 2004, is harder to reason.
I fear that this horrendous crime will not be solved after such a passage of time without any clear progress. Although, it is possible that after many years and interested parties deaths, then somebody could feel emboldened to speak out if indeed anyone other than the killer knows the truth. Indeed, I think there was a radio phone in a few years ago where a caller alluded to knowing- maybe somebody who wasn't directly involved actually does.
Edited by pitchinginaporsche on Sunday 22 September 10:24
matchmaker said:
As Police Scotland didn't exist at the time of the murder I don't see how they can be blamed...
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/sep/21/family-of-banker-alistair-wilson-murdered-20-years-ago-rebuke-incompetent-police-scotlandI think that's a nonsensical point you make don't you ? Organisations can change their name to anything they want , inevitably its much of the same staff employed .
borcy said:
Seems odd he spoke to the man for several minutes, was handed an empty envelope with someone's name on and didn't explain to his wife what they spoke about. And his wife didn't ask?
this is the version of events from one source, the wife - there's no other witnesses or evidence to verify this.The envelope has never been found. Also the detail of the envelope was not shared for about 10 years. What else has not been shared?
Drive Blind said:
borcy said:
Seems odd he spoke to the man for several minutes, was handed an empty envelope with someone's name on and didn't explain to his wife what they spoke about. And his wife didn't ask?
this is the version of events from one source, the wife - there's no other witnesses or evidence to verify this.The envelope has never been found. Also the detail of the envelope was not shared for about 10 years. What else has not been shared?
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