Crime does pay

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Kwackersaki

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1,450 posts

235 months

Friday 20th September
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How much! He must have been sleeping with the judge.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13873301/...

bitchstewie

55,137 posts

217 months

Friday 20th September
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I read that earlier.

I don't have any time for burglars but I also think that there's a duty of care to prisoners that should minimise the likelihood of them being stabbed 16 times.

Kwackersaki

Original Poster:

1,450 posts

235 months

Friday 20th September
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I agree, but are awards based on severity of injury, recovery and ongoing care needs or potential loss of future earnings?

It seems to imply the future earning element and therefore he must have been a bloody good burglar.

He’s also back on his feet so made a good recovery.

oddman

2,786 posts

259 months

Friday 20th September
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At the time, his attacker was only 24 days into a life sentence, imposed for the brutal knife murder of John Comer, 45, in Lawford, Essex, in December 2017

That's one st hot risk assessment that put perp on kitchen duty with a 9" knife rolleyes. Not surprised he's been paid out.

Elysium

15,189 posts

194 months

Friday 20th September
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The state is required to incarcerate all sorts of nasty people. It clearly has a duty of care to ensure that they don't knife each other to death, and it appears that mistakes were made here.

But the state should not be paying this person £ 5.5 million of taxpayer funds as compensation. The amount is insane.

I don't say that because of the individuals past record. I say it because it is utterly incomprehensible that any prisoner in this situation would be awarded such an amount.

Pixel Pusher

10,224 posts

166 months

Friday 20th September
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At least he has enough money now to compensate all the people he burgled.

Shame matey never put one of the 16 through his neck.

Randy Winkman

17,734 posts

196 months

Friday 20th September
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The thing about the story that alarms me most is .......................

"Were you one of Wilson's victims? Email robert.folker@mailonline.co.uk"

Caddyshack

11,831 posts

213 months

Friday 20th September
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I wonder how he would feel if he now gets burgled and loses some of the nice things he buys?

bristolracer

5,629 posts

156 months

Friday 20th September
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Maybe they will charge him rent like they do for the innocent who get acquitted?

JagLover

43,783 posts

242 months

Saturday 21st September
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oddman said:
At the time, his attacker was only 24 days into a life sentence, imposed for the brutal knife murder of John Comer, 45, in Lawford, Essex, in December 2017

That's one st hot risk assessment that put perp on kitchen duty with a 9" knife rolleyes. Not surprised he's been paid out.
Yes, it is no surprise he has received compensation, the surprise is the level. Any reasonable compensation for loss of "earnings" would be less than a tenth of that amount.


JuanCarlosFandango

8,284 posts

78 months

Saturday 21st September
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Sounds like the attacker should have been strung up long ago.

Although it seems like an absurd amount these are life changing injuries.

heisthegaffer

3,649 posts

205 months

Saturday 21st September
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It would be great if the people this scumbag burgled could sue him for the stuff he thieved plus their own trauma they may have suffered.

ChocolateFrog

28,642 posts

180 months

Saturday 21st September
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Didn't realise it was £5m.

That seems extremely generous.

bitchstewie

55,137 posts

217 months

Saturday 21st September
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What's a fair number?

I've genuinely no idea when you take into account the future loss of earnings (yes he's a burglar but I assume you have to assume he could have gone straight) plus the negligence that led to him being stabbed?

richhead

1,654 posts

18 months

Saturday 21st September
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bristolracer said:
Maybe they will charge him rent like they do for the innocent who get acquitted?
I never knew that, that would suck if you had all the grief of being accused of something you didnt do, and locked up, to be hit with a bill!

PorkInsider

6,044 posts

148 months

Saturday 21st September
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If there is an element of 'loss of earnings' in that sum then something is very wrong.

This is a career burglar with 31 previous convictions already, before the one he was locked up for when attacked, so any loss of earnings payout would have to be compensating him for not being able to carry out more burglaries.

oddman

2,786 posts

259 months

Saturday 21st September
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JagLover said:
oddman said:
At the time, his attacker was only 24 days into a life sentence, imposed for the brutal knife murder of John Comer, 45, in Lawford, Essex, in December 2017

That's one st hot risk assessment that put perp on kitchen duty with a 9" knife rolleyes. Not surprised he's been paid out.
Yes, it is no surprise he has received compensation, the surprise is the level. Any reasonable compensation for loss of "earnings" would be less than a tenth of that amount.
Yes the rationale for the award (loss of future earnings) is surprising. The injuries were absolutely horrific - spinal injury from being stabbed in the front yikes

If the rationale for the award was based on the injuries it would still be generous but make more sense.

ChevronB19

6,373 posts

170 months

Saturday 21st September
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Pixel Pusher said:
At least he has enough money now to compensate all the people he burgled.

Shame matey never put one of the 16 through his neck.
You think burglars should be subject to extra judicial murder? Bloody hell.

JuanCarlosFandango

8,284 posts

78 months

Saturday 21st September
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I'd have thought something like a state pension and whatever assistance with housing etc he would get if he "retired" never having worked. You can assume he would have gone straight and found some sort of employment, but you can't assume he'd have made a fortune. A 4% drawdown on £5m is £200k a year, more than the PM, topically enough. And he still has nearly half a million to get himself a house.

That brings me to my other problem with this though. Quite aside from the grotesque waste and perverse message, I suspect this will ruin him anyway. He won't invest in a sensible house and manage his money to give him a decent income for life, because he's a yob who hasn't earned a penny of it. He'll blow it in a few years on fancy holidays and drugs then probably start thieving again.

The trauma of that sort of assault must indeed be awful but I'm not convinced that loads of other people's money in any way makes up for it.

MickC

1,041 posts

265 months

Saturday 21st September
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ChevronB19 said:
You think burglars should be subject to extra judicial murder? Bloody hell.
Isn't that a risk they take from irate householders every time they go burgling? Not very common I grant you but its a risk they seem ok with. So the risk of being caught, locked up and murdered by a murderer who you are sharing a cell or the kitchen with is not much higher biggrin

I take the risk of death every time I get in my car. A very low risk, but a risk just the same, and yes I will get compensated if I suffer life changing injuries caused by someone else on the road, assuming THEY were negligent and I can prove it and they have insurance to cover it.

Let this guy sue the murderer for damages, not the state, he put himself in that risky situation by his own unlawful actions.