My plan to close the £22 billion pound hole

My plan to close the £22 billion pound hole

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lrdisco

Original Poster:

1,550 posts

94 months

Sunday 8th September
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Tax vapes and vaping liquids.
Easy job done.
A tax on the stupid.
Anyone see any problem with my plan?

CammyN

238 posts

6 months

Sunday 8th September
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lrdisco said:
Tax vapes and vaping liquids.
Easy job done.
A tax on the stupid.
Anyone see any problem with my plan?
Sounds good to me, a vaping near neighbour has encouraged his 16 year old son to start vaping, if there is a such a thing as chain vaping then that would be a good description.

Perhaps we can also sell the rubber inflatables and outboard motors, obviously not to the French.

Sheets Tabuer

19,645 posts

222 months

Sunday 8th September
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Legalise cannabis and tax it.

Dingu

4,362 posts

37 months

Sunday 8th September
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Vapes are due to be taxed from 2026 aren’t they?

Oliver Hardy

3,001 posts

81 months

Sunday 8th September
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CammyN said:
lrdisco said:
Tax vapes and vaping liquids.
Easy job done.
A tax on the stupid.
Anyone see any problem with my plan?
Sounds good to me, a vaping near neighbour has encouraged his 16 year old son to start vaping, if there is a such a thing as chain vaping then that would be a good description.

Perhaps we can also sell the rubber inflatables and outboard motors, obviously not to the French.
Can someone explain why vaping is being targeted so much?

I hear that the long term effects are unknown. They have been around for what 20 years or so now, how long does it take to study the effects, other things get introduced and they don't need 100 years before the effects are known. And haven't people been vaping for hundreds of years.

Secondly not all vapes contain tobacco, just food flavourings, so how is it the two are seen as just as bad?

Wonder if the war on vaping is just political correctness

OutInTheShed

9,365 posts

33 months

Sunday 8th September
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Oliver Hardy said:
Can someone explain why vaping is being targeted so much?

I hear that the long term effects are unknown. They have been around for what 20 years or so now, how long does it take to study the effects.....
Takes about 5 minutes study to see a connection between vaping and being an ahole chav.

vaud

52,389 posts

162 months

Sunday 8th September
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Oliver Hardy said:
Secondly not all vapes contain tobacco, just food flavourings, so how is it the two are seen as just as bad?
I think you mean nicotine.

Oliver Hardy

3,001 posts

81 months

Sunday 8th September
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vaud said:
I think you mean nicotine.
Yes your right nicotine.

Point out nicotine does not cause cancer.

Timothy Bucktu

15,700 posts

207 months

Sunday 8th September
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Apparently there is enough lithium thrown away in disposable Vapes to make 5000 high capacity EV Car batteries per year.
They all contain a rechargeable lipo battery in case you weren't aware. It's bonkers how this is allowed.

Dingu

4,362 posts

37 months

Sunday 8th September
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OutInTheShed said:
Oliver Hardy said:
Can someone explain why vaping is being targeted so much?

I hear that the long term effects are unknown. They have been around for what 20 years or so now, how long does it take to study the effects.....
Takes about 5 minutes study to see a connection between vaping and being an ahole chav.
Probably no stronger correlation than the overall car scene. Would be careful what you wish for.

LemonTart

1,417 posts

141 months

Sunday 8th September
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Reportedly the Gov spends £1,200 bn per year so £ 22bn shortfall doesn’t sound that much by comparison, less than 2%, gosh I wish all projections on government spending were that exact.

Makes a good story though I guess, it has run and run..

MitchT

16,230 posts

216 months

Sunday 8th September
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Put cameras on all the traffic lights in Bradford to catch (and fine) people going through at red. You'd have the money in no time.

Sway

29,332 posts

201 months

Sunday 8th September
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Timothy Bucktu said:
Apparently there is enough lithium thrown away in disposable Vapes to make 5000 high capacity EV Car batteries per year.
They all contain a rechargeable lipo battery in case you weren't aware. It's bonkers how this is allowed.
Tbh, non replaceable batteries and disposable devices containing batteries should be banned.

Willing to be shown otherwise, but I cannot think of a rationale for either to ever be appropriate.

alangla

5,200 posts

188 months

Sunday 8th September
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Sway said:
Tbh, non replaceable batteries and disposable devices containing batteries should be banned.

Willing to be shown otherwise, but I cannot think of a rationale for either to ever be appropriate.
When my Mrs was trying to get pregnant the last time, she used a mixture of the reagent paper type pregnancy tests and the electronic ones. The electronic ones struck me as one of the maddest and least sustainable type of contraptions ever produced. A sensor, LCD display, presumably some sort of basic processor and a battery, all for a device with an expected lifespan of about 2 minutes from its first power up.

miniman

26,309 posts

269 months

Sunday 8th September
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Everything enjoyable is punitively taxed.

Beer
Petrol
Marlboros

Why should vapers be allowed to have affordable enjoyment the bds?

Foss62

1,192 posts

72 months

Sunday 8th September
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Oliver Hardy said:
vaud said:
I think you mean nicotine.
Yes your right nicotine.

Point out nicotine does not cause cancer.
Nicotine is probably not carcinogenic, but the carriers used in vapes certainly have the potential to be harmful:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC73486...

Always makes me laugh when people worry themselves about trace levels of pesticides in foods, and equally tiny amounts of chemicals from plastic bottles etc. whilst at the same time deliberately inhaling comparatively vast amounts of organic solvents.

Miocene

1,445 posts

164 months

Sunday 8th September
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alangla said:
Sway said:
Tbh, non replaceable batteries and disposable devices containing batteries should be banned.

Willing to be shown otherwise, but I cannot think of a rationale for either to ever be appropriate.
When my Mrs was trying to get pregnant the last time, she used a mixture of the reagent paper type pregnancy tests and the electronic ones. The electronic ones struck me as one of the maddest and least sustainable type of contraptions ever produced. A sensor, LCD display, presumably some sort of basic processor and a battery, all for a device with an expected lifespan of about 2 minutes from its first power up.
There's no good reason at all, or for kids toys where you can't replace the battery.

jimmyjimjim

7,533 posts

245 months

Monday 9th September
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alangla said:
When my Mrs was trying to get pregnant the last time, she used a mixture of the reagent paper type pregnancy tests and the electronic ones. The electronic ones struck me as one of the maddest and least sustainable type of contraptions ever produced. A sensor, LCD display, presumably some sort of basic processor and a battery, all for a device with an expected lifespan of about 2 minutes from its first power up.
Better than that, if you pull one of them apart, the basic paper one is underneath and all the electronics are doing is detecting the line that you could see for yourself if the electronics weren't in the way.

konark

1,167 posts

126 months

Monday 9th September
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File under 'Tax/ ban everything I don't use'