Grenfell Tower Memorial - £340m

Grenfell Tower Memorial - £340m

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rodericb

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7,921 posts

141 months

Saturday 31st August 2024
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Preserving the burnt-out tower as a memorial will cost £340m.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/30/grenfe...

That's a fair bit of money. I'm intrigued as to why it's going to be "preserved" as a memorial when things like this generally aren't.

markbigears

2,471 posts

284 months

Saturday 31st August 2024
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rodericb said:
I'm intrigued as to why it's going to be "preserved" as a memorial when things like this generally aren't.
I think we all know the reason

Gecko1978

11,350 posts

172 months

Saturday 31st August 2024
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markbigears said:
rodericb said:
I'm intrigued as to why it's going to be "preserved" as a memorial when things like this generally aren't.
I think we all know the reason
I am not sure I do better demolish rebuild an maybe a statue

S600BSB

6,588 posts

121 months

Saturday 31st August 2024
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Gecko1978 said:
markbigears said:
rodericb said:
I'm intrigued as to why it's going to be "preserved" as a memorial when things like this generally aren't.
I think we all know the reason
I am not sure I do better demolish rebuild an maybe a statue
Agree

markbigears

2,471 posts

284 months

Saturday 31st August 2024
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The building is the statue

Bright Halo

3,510 posts

250 months

Saturday 31st August 2024
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I suppose ask the survivors and relatives what they want?

Everybody is different but personally the last thing I would want is that tower left there as a constant reminder. You should renew and regenerate as a fitting memorial of the light coming from darkness.
There can of course be a memorial garden or some other such area where people can pay their respects.

bitchstewie

58,507 posts

225 months

Saturday 31st August 2024
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Seems they're as puzzled as everyone else from the article.

Inquiry report is due to be published this week.

I suspect it'll be uncomfortable reading.

Last Visit

3,202 posts

203 months

Saturday 31st August 2024
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£340m? Someone has to be making a stonking great profit out of this tragedy.

98elise

29,690 posts

176 months

Saturday 31st August 2024
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Bright Halo said:
I suppose ask the survivors and relatives what they want?

Everybody is different but personally the last thing I would want is that tower left there as a constant reminder. You should renew and regenerate as a fitting memorial of the light coming from darkness.
There can of course be a memorial garden or some other such area where people can pay their respects.
Agreed.

I wouldn't want the burnt out remains of something as a memorial to a lost family member. A quiet memorial garden would be far nicer.

Given it was social housing then leaving it is depriving the area of that housing.

S600BSB

6,588 posts

121 months

Saturday 31st August 2024
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Why does everything cost so much more in the UK than elsewhere?

Super Sonic

9,516 posts

69 months

Saturday 31st August 2024
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markbigears said:
I think we all know the reason
I don't.

paulw123

4,103 posts

205 months

Saturday 31st August 2024
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S600BSB said:
Why does everything cost so much more in the UK than elsewhere?
Because anyone else it would have been taken down by now

The Hypno-Toad

12,888 posts

220 months

Saturday 31st August 2024
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Super Sonic said:
markbigears said:
I think we all know the reason
I don't.
Me neither. confused

Mojooo

13,192 posts

195 months

Saturday 31st August 2024
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The Hypno-Toad said:
Super Sonic said:
markbigears said:
I think we all know the reason
I don't.
Me neither. confused
Brown people?

aeropilot

38,224 posts

242 months

Saturday 31st August 2024
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rodericb said:
Preserving the burnt-out tower as a memorial will cost £340m.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/30/grenfe...

That's a fair bit of money. I'm intrigued as to why it's going to be "preserved" as a memorial when things like this generally aren't.
Is that not a journalistic mistake?

I was under the impression the 'preservation' of the tower and its costs as such was a legal neccessity until after the end of the public enquiry process, rather than as a memorial, which seems a rather macabre notion...?




Gecko1978

11,350 posts

172 months

Saturday 31st August 2024
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Mojooo said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
Super Sonic said:
markbigears said:
I think we all know the reason
I don't.
Me neither. confused
Brown people?
Still no idea cos I assume brown white young old men wome (other options are avalible) all suffered

valiant

12,250 posts

175 months

Saturday 31st August 2024
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Can’t see it staying there indefinitely.

At some point it WILL become structurally unsafe and will have to be carefully and sensitively taken down.

A memorial garden on the site would be a fitting substitute and a place for people to mourn and reflect in a serene environment whilst maintaining a focal point for the tragedy.


JuanCarlosFandango

8,822 posts

86 months

Saturday 31st August 2024
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We'll pay someone £340m to call scrap art? Seems a pretty fitting memorial to a sorry tale of greed, corruption, incompetence and dishonesty.

Randy Winkman

18,880 posts

204 months

Saturday 31st August 2024
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aeropilot said:
rodericb said:
Preserving the burnt-out tower as a memorial will cost £340m.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/30/grenfe...

That's a fair bit of money. I'm intrigued as to why it's going to be "preserved" as a memorial when things like this generally aren't.
Is that not a journalistic mistake?

I was under the impression the 'preservation' of the tower and its costs as such was a legal neccessity until after the end of the public enquiry process, rather than as a memorial, which seems a rather macabre notion...?
Isn't it either a mistake or misrepresentation by the opening poster, rather than by a journalist?

98elise

29,690 posts

176 months

Saturday 31st August 2024
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Ian Geary said:
The graun article I read today had a former resident saying the fire was because society treats poor people like second class citizens.
I've never understood that stance. They were flats in Kensington (a very expensive area) that had recently had £10m spent on it. From photos of the inside it looked like a nice place to live, and from reports at the time it was a nice community.

The fire had nothing to do with how much the residents earned.