Wind turbine director destroys flowerbed...

[Simpo Two]

Essentially a long-running local spat about something else, but what annoys me is the excuse for the petty destruction: 'Unfortunately the planter in question includes materials that are not environmentally friendly, such as plastic and concrete, which conflicts with our sustainability efforts.'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98459n9ynko

[Radec]

Let's hope it all blows over

[jdw100]

Non story just to generate a a headline.

Petty local fallout - not exactly a blades at dawn scenario.

[.:ian:.]

Because wind turbines contain no plastic and use no concrete in production? What a wind-bag.

[durbster]

Radec said:

Let's hope it all blows over

Nice.

[Rough101]

Not welcome in the village by the looks of it, and I suspect that planter is plonked where they turn into a drive or something, placed just to get a rise from the guy.

[119]

Would be interesting to know what the 'ongoing planning dispute' is.

[DMN]

From google earth, this planter appears to be opposite the entrance to the village Pub, and near no access point to his property. The overhead shot does show a car parked there.

[GliderRider]

What will his company's board of directors make of his conflict resolution methods?

[SpidersWeb]

Same old story of newcomers move into village creating animosity on both sides from everyone's behaviour, and that's before you get to the English/Welsh dimension.

From the story in the Wail it appears that the newcomers have been putting in planning applications and getting permission refused for years, and that includes permission to create off-road parking.

And as the photos show that the planter was at the end of a lay-by next to their garden wall, then what's the betting that the other side of that wall behind the new planter is exactly where they want the off-road parking and the locals just happened to choose to put the planter there and it was an utter coincidence that it would put an end to them ever being able to access that piece of land.

[hidetheelephants]

DMN said:

From google earth, this planter appears to be opposite the entrance to the village Pub, and near no access point to his property. The overhead shot does show a car parked there.

The overhead shows a drive and outline of a shed or garage footprint; the streetview shows an entrance totally obscured by a tangle of shrubs. The mention of a planning dispute may relate to this, if the bedding plant vandal wanted to use the drive but was refused by the roads dept on sightlines or because the pub entrance meant it was unsafe perhaps it's a sore point.

[Cotty]

.:ian:. said:

Because wind turbines contain no plastic and use no concrete in production? What a wind-bag.

The blades can't be recycled they just bury them.

[Simpo Two]

GliderRider said:

What will his company's board of directors make of his conflict resolution methods?

Well it's an interesting variation on frozen sausages. 'Rip up his flowerbeds'...

[hidetheelephants]

Cotty said:

.:ian:. said:

Because wind turbines contain no plastic and use no concrete in production? What a wind-bag.

The blades can't be recycled they just bury them.

They can be recycled but it's more expensive than burial.

[turbobloke]

.:ian:. said:

Because wind turbines contain no plastic and use no concrete in production? What a wind-bag.

Nor does the boggo turbine klil thousands of protected bats, and many protected birds of prey, annually, and they're very reliable as energy sources given the wind blows at a goldilocks speed all the time. They're so good that Miliband has just upped related taxpayer handouts to get more.

[otolith]

Street view;

https://maps.app.goo.gl/zKh2T7yEyDZH6s8j9

Rejected planning application for substantial extension of existing outbuilding and to open that wall up just where the planter is and put some parking space in;

https://planning.agileapplications.co.uk/flintshir...

One of the objections to the scheme was the loss of parking on the road, so it's understandable that he'd be pretty pissed off about the village then sticking a planter there. But it's basically a dog-in-a-manger response.

planning report said:

Local Member - Cllr G Maddison - wishes for the application to be discussed at planning committee. Reason, the development is unsuitable for a conservation area in AONB

Local Member – Cllr G Banks – finds the proposal outrageous and states; I am personally totally against this taking place.

Trelawnyd and Gwaenysgor Community Council – objects to the proposal on the following grounds – materials not in keeping, will impose on skyline and take away privacy, inadequate drainage, loss of parking in village, loss of green verge and historic wall, plans don’t appear correct, the parking area could impact on the safety of neighbours and could lead to a dangerous situation, contrary to policies in LDP.

Public Rights of Way - No objection. Public Bridleway 10 abuts the site but appears unaffected by the development. The path must be protected and free from interference from the construction.

Highways Development Control – Subject to a condition to secure adequate visibility in perpetuity at the proposed point of access onto the highway, there are no objections to the proposal on highway safety or parking provision.

Built Conservation – Following examination the Conservation Team identified that the section of the wall subject to this application is un-historic in date, having been reconstructed within the last thirty years. Conservation thereby considers that the loss of a small section of modern wall would not be adversely detrimental to the character and appearance of the area on this basis raise no objection.

Community & Business Protection (Pollution) - No objection.

Area of Outstanding Nature Beauty (AONB) Joint Committee – No Objection

CADW - No comments received at the time of writing the report.

Clwyd Powys Archaeological Trust - No objection - recommend planning condition to secure archaeological watching brief.

[SpidersWeb]

turbobloke said:

Nor does the boggo turbine klil thousands of protected bats, and many protected birds of prey, annually,

Between 10k and 100k birds killed by wind turbines in the UK annually vs 55m killed by cats.

When do you propose the extermination of cats in the UK should start?

turbobloke said:

and they're very reliable as energy sources given the wind blows at a goldilocks speed all the time.

Do you really find it that hard to understand that wind just forms one part of a multitude of energy sources?

And would you really want 40% of grid generation that is coming from wind today (and 17% from solar) to be replaced by gas or coal - sorry, dumb question as you clearly do.

[hidetheelephants]

otolith said:

One of the objections to the scheme was the loss of parking on the road, so it's understandable that he'd be pretty pissed off about the village then sticking a planter there. But it's basically a dog-in-a-manger response.

They do seem to have been treated quite harshly getting the parking knocked back, but the planter doesn't seem to affect anything they wanted to do. Everyone looks like a dick here. Given the rather limp reasons for refusal an appeal probably would be successful.

Edited by hidetheelephants on Tuesday 20th August 11:39

[Simpo Two]

SpidersWeb said:

And would you really want 40% of grid generation that is coming from wind today (and 17% from solar) to be replaced by gas or coal - sorry, dumb question as you clearly do.

You forgot nuclear. But the point was really that the powerfully-built company director in actuality lost his rag and threw a tantrum, but then justified it by saying the planter was made from eco-unfriendly materials. If that is true, then he should behave the same for every such planter he encounters. I doubt he will, so he's not only a rather nasty piece of work, he's a liar.

[otolith]

I think the point he's making about the materials is snark because the construction materials were one of the reasons his extension was knocked back.