Children to be taught to spot extremist content & fake news

Children to be taught to spot extremist content & fake news

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bitchstewie

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55,154 posts

217 months

Sunday 11th August
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This seems especially relevant right now given the amount of misinformation that has arguably triggered and fanned the flames of the recent riots - not to mention the rise of online conspiracy theories and outright lies and the way they target children and the vulnerable.

UK children to be taught how to spot extremist content and fake news online

Schools to wage war on ‘putrid’ fake news in anti-extremism crackdown

PurplePenguin

3,230 posts

40 months

Sunday 11th August
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bhstewie said:
This seems especially relevant right now given the amount of misinformation that has arguably triggered and fanned the flames of the recent riots - not to mention the rise of online conspiracy theories and outright lies and the way they target children and the vulnerable.

UK children to be taught how to spot extremist content and fake news online

Schools to wage war on ‘putrid’ fake news in anti-extremism crackdown
What about the fake news peddled by mainstream media and government?





Randy Winkman

17,750 posts

196 months

Sunday 11th August
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PurplePenguin said:
bhstewie said:
This seems especially relevant right now given the amount of misinformation that has arguably triggered and fanned the flames of the recent riots - not to mention the rise of online conspiracy theories and outright lies and the way they target children and the vulnerable.

UK children to be taught how to spot extremist content and fake news online

Schools to wage war on ‘putrid’ fake news in anti-extremism crackdown
What about the fake news peddled by mainstream media and government?
If it's fake it's fake, I guess.

Gecko1978

10,458 posts

164 months

Sunday 11th August
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bhstewie said:
This seems especially relevant right now given the amount of misinformation that has arguably triggered and fanned the flames of the recent riots - not to mention the rise of online conspiracy theories and outright lies and the way they target children and the vulnerable.

UK children to be taught how to spot extremist content and fake news online

Schools to wage war on ‘putrid’ fake news in anti-extremism crackdown
Rather than taught X is fake Y is real better to teach critical thinking much harder to see the results of course.

You yourself must accept that in the world of PH you have a clear left bias (this is think is healthy for ph to prevent it being an scho chamber). So if you were to say X is fake Y is real it would have a slant. I fear that is what might happen. I recall early 90s history class we were told to question evidence was it primary secondary was it written in a way that led you or asked you to think.

stuckmojo

3,269 posts

195 months

Sunday 11th August
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Excellent.

The state and our totally impartial and highly effective education system will do a phenomenal job.

Please govern me harder.

MKnight702

3,199 posts

221 months

Sunday 11th August
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I can't see this being abused at all, nope, absolutely zero chance of this being abused at all.

Just like in Russia, you can only believe what the State news tells you, and they never lie, ever.

55palfers

6,006 posts

171 months

Sunday 11th August
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RE is going to get a bit tricky.

Timothy Bucktu

15,703 posts

207 months

Sunday 11th August
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PurplePenguin said:
What about the fake news peddled by mainstream media and government?
It's OK when they do it.

bitchstewie

Original Poster:

55,154 posts

217 months

Sunday 11th August
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Gecko1978 said:
Rather than taught X is fake Y is real better to teach critical thinking much harder to see the results of course.

You yourself must accept that in the world of PH you have a clear left bias (this is think is healthy for ph to prevent it being an scho chamber). So if you were to say X is fake Y is real it would have a slant. I fear that is what might happen. I recall early 90s history class we were told to question evidence was it primary secondary was it written in a way that led you or asked you to think.
Oh in the world of PH I found out the other days I'm "ultra left wing" which was news to me hehe

I actually agree critical thinking is the key skill and it's what the substance behind the headlines points at - but you can already see how apparently we're turning into Russia - I'm guessing give it an hour for North Korea to come up.

PurplePenguin

3,230 posts

40 months

Sunday 11th August
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bhstewie said:
Gecko1978 said:
Rather than taught X is fake Y is real better to teach critical thinking much harder to see the results of course.

You yourself must accept that in the world of PH you have a clear left bias (this is think is healthy for ph to prevent it being an scho chamber). So if you were to say X is fake Y is real it would have a slant. I fear that is what might happen. I recall early 90s history class we were told to question evidence was it primary secondary was it written in a way that led you or asked you to think.
Oh in the world of PH I found out the other days I'm "ultra left wing" which was news to me hehe

I actually agree critical thinking is the key skill and it's what the substance behind the headlines points at - but you can already see how apparently we're turning into Russia - I'm guessing give it an hour for North Korea to come up.
If the cap fits…. smile

Evanivitch

22,075 posts

129 months

Sunday 11th August
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But wHErE aRE thE PAreNtS!?

DanL

6,437 posts

272 months

Sunday 11th August
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bhstewie said:
Oh in the world of PH I found out the other days I'm "ultra left wing" which was news to me hehe

I actually agree critical thinking is the key skill and it's what the substance behind the headlines points at - but you can already see how apparently we're turning into Russia - I'm guessing give it an hour for North Korea to come up.
Always used to be taught as part of history - consider the source, and all that. But it’s a good idea, and I assume (naturally I’ve not read the links posted biggrin) that this is for younger kids before they get into GCSEs where they might learn about it as part of taking history, and/or to cover for the people who don’t take a history lesson.

PlywoodPascal

5,384 posts

28 months

Sunday 11th August
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55palfers said:
RE is going to get a bit tricky.
Very good.
Heathen.

Randy Winkman

17,750 posts

196 months

Sunday 11th August
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Gecko1978 said:
Rather than taught X is fake Y is real better to teach critical thinking much harder to see the results of course.
Did you know that the first line of the Guardian article says that's the exact point of the teaching?

https://www.theguardian.com/education/article/2024...



ClaphamGT3

11,527 posts

250 months

Sunday 11th August
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I'm a great believer in children being taught to challenge, to analyse, to critique and to form opinions that they can debate, defend and - if necessary - adapt.

I'm less keen on the idea of children being taught by rote what is acceptable and what is not

PurplePenguin

3,230 posts

40 months

Sunday 11th August
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Randy Winkman said:
Gecko1978 said:
Rather than taught X is fake Y is real better to teach critical thinking much harder to see the results of course.
Did you know that the first line of the Guardian article says that's the exact point of the teaching?

https://www.theguardian.com/education/article/2024...

To teach the “correct” critical thinking

Carl_VivaEspana

13,173 posts

269 months

Sunday 11th August
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stuckmojo said:
Excellent.

The state and our totally impartial and highly effective education system will do a phenomenal job.

Please govern me harder.
made me laugh out loud.

Randy Winkman

17,750 posts

196 months

Sunday 11th August
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PurplePenguin said:
Randy Winkman said:
Gecko1978 said:
Rather than taught X is fake Y is real better to teach critical thinking much harder to see the results of course.
Did you know that the first line of the Guardian article says that's the exact point of the teaching?

https://www.theguardian.com/education/article/2024...

To teach the “correct” critical thinking
I'd suggest that you have already applied your own personal bias to the story. smile

CoolHands

19,451 posts

202 months

Sunday 11th August
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They can use the government covid briefings as an exemplar

Ps is professor pantsdown still employed in a significant position? Oh yes he’s still ‘Director of the School of Public Health’ at Imperial

Edited by CoolHands on Sunday 11th August 09:28

PurplePenguin

3,230 posts

40 months

Sunday 11th August
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Randy Winkman said:
PurplePenguin said:
Randy Winkman said:
Gecko1978 said:
Rather than taught X is fake Y is real better to teach critical thinking much harder to see the results of course.
Did you know that the first line of the Guardian article says that's the exact point of the teaching?

https://www.theguardian.com/education/article/2024...

To teach the “correct” critical thinking
I'd suggest that you have already applied your own personal bias to the story. smile
I have applied the correct critical thinking smile