Foreign Holidays

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Saleen836

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11,445 posts

216 months

Thursday 8th August
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I know it has been mentioned in a thread somewhere that flights people are taking are full etc (couldn't find it) but heard this report on the news earlier today...

https://www.standard.co.uk/business/business-news/...


Thought it odd considering people on here saying fights were full scratchchin

bloomen

7,451 posts

166 months

Thursday 8th August
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People may struggle, but they cough up anyway.

I couldn't stomach paying the school holidays tax.

I'd either fire my children, if I had any, or halt their education completely so we could go to Magaluf in January.

mjb1

2,584 posts

166 months

Thursday 8th August
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Saleen836 said:
I know it has been mentioned in a thread somewhere that flights people are taking are full etc (couldn't find it) but heard this report on the news earlier today...

https://www.standard.co.uk/business/business-news/...


Thought it odd considering people on here saying fights were full scratchchin
Maybe there's less flights?

That article is lacking context on most of the stats it quotes, but "A quarter (25%) of respondents said they will not be going on holiday abroad this year because of increased costs" suggests that 75% of respondents are going abroad this year? Which is still a lot of people flying.

Hoofy

77,493 posts

289 months

Thursday 8th August
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They probably sacrifice something else like eat out a lot less or skip a service on their car...

Skeptisk

8,241 posts

116 months

Thursday 8th August
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The cost of the flight is one element of the holiday but there is accommodation, eating out and entertainment. That can be cheaper abroad (depending on where you go). It isn’t as if you don’t get stiffed if you holiday in the UK during the school holidays.

djc206

12,756 posts

132 months

Thursday 8th August
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mjb1 said:
Maybe there's less flights?

That article is lacking context on most of the stats it quotes, but "A quarter (25%) of respondents said they will not be going on holiday abroad this year because of increased costs" suggests that 75% of respondents are going abroad this year? Which is still a lot of people flying.
Flight numbers are up. Getting very close to pre Covid levels.


Spare tyre

10,348 posts

137 months

Thursday 8th August
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Hoofy said:
They probably sacrifice something else like eat out a lot less or skip a service on their car...
Yup

A lot of people that we know are struggling, mostly younger folk with kids

My sister will not service the car, run with iffy brakes, bald tyres and not service the boiler etc, that’s boring stuff

Can always muster a holiday fund

Baroque attacks

5,185 posts

193 months

Thursday 8th August
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Depends on destination too…

We have been away in Cornwall for a week this year, 8 days in Europe and then 2 weeks in the Maldives.

Europe and the Maldives involved flights, but they’re not equal!

The split of volume by long/short haul might be interesting.

survivalist

5,870 posts

197 months

Thursday 8th August
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Reads more like a promo piece for train companies based on a relatively small sample size (2003 adults) survey funded by a train operator.

“ The survey was conducted by research company Censuswide between July 19 and 23” - were they standing outside a train station while operating this survey ?


Carl_VivaEspana

13,173 posts

269 months

Thursday 8th August
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Saleen836 said:
I know it has been mentioned in a thread somewhere that flights people are taking are full etc (couldn't find it) but heard this report on the news earlier today...

https://www.standard.co.uk/business/business-news/...


Thought it odd considering people on here saying fights were full scratchchin
On the post-school break flights I have been on in July and August, between the UK and Spain some of the prices have been the same as last year (top dollar) but the planes have been half empty.

Ryanair did send out comms to the market saying it was struggling to fill seats and if you look at the last two weeks of August for Ryanair the flights were on a 50%+ discount.


rscott

15,262 posts

198 months

Friday 9th August
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Could also be that people are using other methods to go to Europe...

We only flew on one of our last 5 holidays to mainland Europe - that was to Geneva.
The rest used the Eurostar - 2 to Lille, 2 to Paris (and one of those onwards to Switzerland by train).

It's so much easier - only have to arrive 40 minutes before departure, security is far quicker and you tend to arrive in the heart of a city, not a few miles out at the airport. The journey from Paris to Geneva was less than 5 hours, so overall, not much different to flying.

Also considered using the ferry from Harwich to the Hook, then picking up the hire car, but had to scrap that as I've knackered my knee...

MarkJS

1,718 posts

154 months

Friday 9th August
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survivalist said:
Reads more like a promo piece for train companies based on a relatively small sample size (2003 adults) survey funded by a train operator.

“ The survey was conducted by research company Censuswide between July 19 and 23” - were they standing outside a train station while operating this survey ?
Nail on the head. I can’t believe people soak this nonsense up.

Tiny survey commissioned by a (incompetent) UK rail company who go on to advertise tickets priced at £10.20 (which are probably nigh on impossible to get) to the drab, drizzly Lake District.

plenty

4,880 posts

193 months

Friday 9th August
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Just for the record, a sample size of 2,003 is more than adequate for purpose. The charge of the source being partial, however, has merit.

sugerbear

4,532 posts

165 months

Friday 9th August
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Baroque attacks said:
Depends on destination too…

We have been away in Cornwall for a week this year, 8 days in Europe and then 2 weeks in the Maldives.

Europe and the Maldives involved flights, but they’re not equal!

The split of volume by long/short haul might be interesting.
I bet the week in Cornwall was the most expensive of all three smile

Leptons

5,317 posts

183 months

Friday 9th August
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MarkJS said:
Nail on the head. I can’t believe people soak this nonsense up.

Tiny survey commissioned by a (incompetent) UK rail company who go on to advertise tickets priced at £10.20 (which are probably nigh on impossible to get) to the drab, drizzly Lake District.
Quite, users of a Northern rail service are hardly going to be representative of the general population.

plenty

4,880 posts

193 months

Friday 9th August
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Leptons said:
Quite, users of a Northern rail service are hardly going to be representative of the general population.
The sample will have been a standard UK population sample, not a sample of TPE customers.

JimmyConwayNW

3,127 posts

132 months

Friday 9th August
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Baroque attacks said:
Depends on destination too…

We have been away in Cornwall for a week this year, 8 days in Europe and then 2 weeks in the Maldives.

Europe and the Maldives involved flights, but they’re not equal!

The split of volume by long/short haul might be interesting.
2 weeks in the Maldives at £10k isn't so bad, 2 weeks for £10k on a Greek island or Turkey seems insane to me. There isn't quite the gap for a cheap euro week compared to long haul.

Otispunkmeyer

13,038 posts

162 months

Friday 9th August
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Skeptisk said:
The cost of the flight is one element of the holiday but there is accommodation, eating out and entertainment. That can be cheaper abroad (depending on where you go). It isn’t as if you don’t get stiffed if you holiday in the UK during the school holidays.
Yeah you end up getting reamed here as well. A lot of places are very definitely a poor value in the UK, even if the weather turns out nice. Sometimes I just think to stay at home for 2 weeks! At least you can sleep in your own bed!

Baroque attacks

5,185 posts

193 months

Friday 9th August
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JimmyConwayNW said:
Baroque attacks said:
Depends on destination too…

We have been away in Cornwall for a week this year, 8 days in Europe and then 2 weeks in the Maldives.

Europe and the Maldives involved flights, but they’re not equal!

The split of volume by long/short haul might be interesting.
2 weeks in the Maldives at £10k isn't so bad, 2 weeks for £10k on a Greek island or Turkey seems insane to me. There isn't quite the gap for a cheap euro week compared to long haul.
That depends how you do two hehe

borcy

5,529 posts

63 months

Friday 9th August
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News report? Looks more like an advert pretending to be news.

Are short haul flights down by much?