Should racists be refused NHS care?

[bitchstewie]

I thought this was interesting enough to perhaps deserve its own thread as there will still be scumbags racially abusing NHS and other public sector staff long after the rioters are dealt with.

UK riots: People who are racist to NHS staff 'can and should' be refused care, health secretary says

I'm sure you could extend the same principle to all manner of other services but it's probably a bit simplistic to suggest all private companies are free to pick and choose as I'm sure some lower paid retail and service industry workers aren't empowered to give a swift "fk off" to anyone acting up where they work.

Edited by bhstewie on Wednesday 7th August 18:05

[ziggy328]

No.

[Chimune]

No.
But they should be refused anaesthetic....

[Rufus Stone]

Why stop at racists? Perhaps anyone that is abusive to NHS staff should be denied treatment.

[Rough101]

Rufus Stone said:

Why stop at racists? Perhaps anyone that is abusive to NHS staff should be denied treatment.

This, why single out racists? Any bigotry or disrespect displayed to staff and you can leave.

[Colonel Cupcake]

Who decides what is 'racist'? The worker? Their manager? A poll of all the other patients? Will it apply to mental patients? Dementia sufferers?

The idea is a total non-flyer.

[Chimune]

Rough101 said:

This, why single out racists? Any bigotry or disrespect displayed to staff and you can leave.

Agreed.
Drunk and abusive people should get extra anesthetic.

[FMOB]

This is a fundamental attack on anti-discrimination policies in this country and is a different facet of the same nasty attitude that is causing riots on the streets.

I would question why the OP felt this nastyness needed further exposure?

[KAgantua]

FMOB said:

This is a fundamental attack on anti-discrimination policies in this country and is a different facet of the same nasty attitude that is causing riots on the streets.

I would question why the OP felt this nastyness needed further exposure?

Just another day in the bs newsfeed...
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[bitchstewie]

FMOB said:

This is a fundamental attack on anti-discrimination policies in this country and is a different facet of the same nasty attitude that is causing riots on the streets.

I would question why the OP felt this nastyness needed further exposure?

Because there is an increase in the amount of abuse (not all of it racist) from scumbags to both public and private sector staff.

Those people are often amongst the lowest paid and least empowered in the workforce.

Should they simply put up with it?

Wes Streeting has raised the question/option with regard to NHS staff and racist abuse so it's already got exposure because it's in the media.

[Timothy Bucktu]

Well, considering everyone and anything is apparently Racist these days, I suppose it'd be one way to clear the NHS backlog?!

Jeez...the nonsense PH has become

[FMOB]

bhstewie said:

FMOB said:

This is a fundamental attack on anti-discrimination policies in this country and is a different facet of the same nasty attitude that is causing riots on the streets.

I would question why the OP felt this nastyness needed further exposure?

Because there is an increase in the amount of abuse (not all of it racist) from scumbags to both public and private sector staff.

Those people are often amongst the lowest paid and least empowered in the workforce.

Should they simply put up with it?

Wes Streeting has raised the question/option with regard to NHS staff and racist abuse so it's already got exposure because it's in the media.

You post something about racism and when called out on your reason for giving it oxygen try to say it is about any kind of abuse, I think everyone understands what you were trying to do!

[bitchstewie]

FMOB said:

You post something about racism and when called out on your reason for giving it oxygen try to say it is about any kind of abuse, I think everyone understands what you were trying to do!

I've posted that the Health Secretary is in the news for suggesting NHS care could be denied to people racially abusing staff.

Most people want less racism and they don't want NHS staff to be abused by anyone.

There's an increasing amount of reports of staff being abused.

Don't take my word for it.

Investigation: Massive increase in racial abuse against NHS staff

Bit strange to think you're "calling out" someone for highlighting an initiative to try to tackle a growing issue but it takes all sorts I guess.

[Ziplobb]

What about substituting ‘racist’ for ‘obese’ far more traction and benefits to the wider heathly tax paying population in that discrimination

[Rufus Stone]

Ziplobb said:

What about substituting ‘racist’ for ‘obese’ far more traction and benefits to the wider heathly tax paying population in that discrimination

It's not about money though. It's about respect towards NHS workers.

[mickk]

Ziplobb said:

What about substituting ‘racist’ for ‘obese’ far more traction and benefits to the wider heathly tax paying population in that discrimination

Add chain smoking or alcoholic.

[bitchstewie]

I'd say how the NHS deals with health conditions is a different question to how it deals with abuse.

[Hoofy]

Chimune said:

Rough101 said:

This, why single out racists? Any bigotry or disrespect displayed to staff and you can leave.

Agreed.
Drunk and abusive people should get extra anesthetic.

You mean like a... Liverpool Care Pathway?

[mickk]

bhstewie said:

I'd say how the NHS deals with health conditions is a different question to how it deals with abuse.

Is it a massive problem or just a one off due to the current issues? Not heard of it happening before.

[bitchstewie]

mickk said:

Is it a massive problem or just a one off due to the current issues? Not heard of it happening before.

Check the Nursing Times link above as it has some stats in it.

It's got a bit of media time/focus now with Streeting's comments which as you say are because of the scumbags rioting but it's on the increase.