is Starmer or the Mail lying

[silverfoxcc]

Dis Starmer actually state labour would reduce fuel bills by 300gbp

any orinted proof?

[Rivenink]

silverfoxcc said:

Dis Starmer actually state labour would reduce fuel bills by 300gbp

any orinted proof?

If I understand correctly, the £300 figure is a forecast for 2030-ish.

Not a promise to slash everyones bills by £300 tomorrow.

[Rivenink]

And the answer to the question "is the Daily Mail lying" is always yes.

[FourWheelDrift]

silverfoxcc said:

Dis Starmer actually state labour would reduce fuel bills by 300gbp

any orinted proof?

Reducing one by stealth raising another.

Politics 101.

[BoRED S2upid]

Rivenink said:

If I understand correctly, the £300 figure is a forecast for 2030-ish.

Not a promise to slash everyones bills by £300 tomorrow.

So in 2030 I will be paying £300 less than today?

[James6112]

silverfoxcc said:

Dis Starmer actually state labour would reduce fuel bills by 300gbp

any orinted proof?

Why?

Come back & whinge in 2030 if it’s only £299

[Rusty Old-Banger]

Conveniently after the next GE.

[Ridgemont]

Rivenink said:

silverfoxcc said:

Dis Starmer actually state labour would reduce fuel bills by 300gbp

any orinted proof?

If I understand correctly, the £300 figure is a forecast for 2030-ish.

Not a promise to slash everyones bills by £300 tomorrow.

Be interested to see how that works with say even an optimistic 2-3% inflation rate per year. By rights if you are paying say £230 per month now for combo electric and gas you are paying around £2800 in bills pa.

Assuming say 3% inflation over 6 years that 18% uplift in bills.

i.e. around £3300.

So if £300 is a net saving on where we are now some how he needs to conjure up a magical £800 reduction (£3300 - £2800 - his £300 = £800 differential).

I smell st.

[Drumroll]

Ridgemont said:

Be interested to see how that works with say even an optimistic 2-3% inflation rate per year. By rights if you are paying say £230 per month now for combo electric and gas you are paying around £2800 in bills pa.

Assuming say 3% inflation over 6 years that 18% uplift in bills.

i.e. around £3300.

So if £300 is a net saving on where we are now some how he needs to conjure up a magical £800 reduction (£3300 - £2800 - his £300 = £800 differential).

I smell st.

Apart from the fact most of the UK don't pay £230 a month for fuel. Our bill is currently £110 per month for a 3 bedroom semi. My MIL who seems to have the heating on constantly only pays £195 for her 4 bedroom detached.

[Hill92]

https://fullfact.org/election-2024/labour-energy-b...

[Jasey_]

Labours plans mean a £300 saving in 2030 will buy you a pint of milk.

[henrycrun]

The Daily Lies - every week

https://bylineinvestigates.com/section/the-mail/

[gazza285]

OP, have you considered the possibility that with one being an absolute sthouse of a newspaper, and the other being a politician, they both tell fibs?

[Rivenink]

Ridgemont said:

Rivenink said:

silverfoxcc said:

Dis Starmer actually state labour would reduce fuel bills by 300gbp

any orinted proof?

If I understand correctly, the £300 figure is a forecast for 2030-ish.

Not a promise to slash everyones bills by £300 tomorrow.

Be interested to see how that works with say even an optimistic 2-3% inflation rate per year. By rights if you are paying say £230 per month now for combo electric and gas you are paying around £2800 in bills pa.

Assuming say 3% inflation over 6 years that 18% uplift in bills.

i.e. around £3300.

So if £300 is a net saving on where we are now some how he needs to conjure up a magical £800 reduction (£3300 - £2800 - his £300 = £800 differential).

I smell st.

If I recall right, the numbers are coming from https://ember-climate.org/insights/research/uk-off... or at least a report they did for Labour.

[hidetheelephants]

That's offensive to sthouses.

gazza285 said:

OP, have you considered the possibility that with one being an absolute sthouse of a newspaper, and the other being a politician, they both tell fibs?

[silverfoxcc]

i have an intense dislike of all politicians and papers as well... so hust another non story