Wales: intent to ban free drinks re-fills
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c51ye8e5dr0o
In order to save people from themselves, they are pushing legislation that would ban free re-fills of unhealthy drinks, and a ban on "buy one get one free" type offers on unhealthy food.
Glad they know what's best for their population!
In order to save people from themselves, they are pushing legislation that would ban free re-fills of unhealthy drinks, and a ban on "buy one get one free" type offers on unhealthy food.
Glad they know what's best for their population!
If people getting obese/getting type 2 diabetes only had consequences for the individual then I would be fine about letting people do what they want. But it doesn’t. Far and unhealthy people take more sick days, become long term sick (on benefits) and are a burden on the NHS (requiring allocation of limited cash and resources). Children who grow up obese are also much more likely to remain obese and they are often made obese by their parents.
So yes I think government/societal intervention is justified and required.
Apparently the sugar tax did contribute to a reduction in sugar consumption:
https://www.bmj.com/content/386/bmj.q1518
So yes I think government/societal intervention is justified and required.
Apparently the sugar tax did contribute to a reduction in sugar consumption:
https://www.bmj.com/content/386/bmj.q1518
BBC said:
It includes a proposal to prohibit retailers from offering free drink refills, which many high street restaurants including Nando's and Five Guys offer.
Last time I went to Nando's, 4 of the 5 drinks offered on the 'free refill' were actually sugar free options (Coke Zero, Diet Coke, Sprite Zero and Fanta Zero). zetec said:
I wish governments would look at the real issue. It's the quality and amount of food people consume at home. Great, stop me having another Diet Coke with my treat meal out, I'll just drink the 2 litre bottle of full fat stuff I have at home when I get home.
They are not stopping you from having as much Diet Coke as you like with your 'treat' meal out....... They're making you pay for it!!!!!!super7 said:
zetec said:
I wish governments would look at the real issue. It's the quality and amount of food people consume at home. Great, stop me having another Diet Coke with my treat meal out, I'll just drink the 2 litre bottle of full fat stuff I have at home when I get home.
They are not stopping you from having as much Diet Coke as you like with your 'treat' meal out....... They're making you pay for it!!!!!!zetec said:
I wish governments would look at the real issue. It's the quality and amount of food people consume at home. Great, stop me having another Diet Coke with my treat meal out, I'll just drink the 2 litre bottle of full fat stuff I have at home when I get home.
I agree with this up to a point, but surely the problem is that for a lot of people meals out, especially at the lower end of the market, are no longer treats, they form a substantial part of the diet.When I was younger, a meal out was once a month perhaps. None of the not bothering to make lunch and popping to Pret/Costa/KFC etc then, at least for me. Not bothering meant someone went out for Fish and Chips, and that was even less frequent than the proper meals out!.
DeejRC said:
Evanivitch said:
ambuletz said:
so.. targeting nandos and pizza hut then? because they're the only places that do free refills.
Wetherspoons coffee.I don't eat chicken, so never darken the doors of Nandos.
Unfortunately the next generation are also following the same path as their parents..
The lack of education about food and nutrition is the problem but fiddling at the edges is cheaper.
The most stupid part of this entire proposal is this one:
nutters said:
It will also apply to online equivalents including website entry pages, shopping basket and payment pages.
What's this? Sites hosted in Wales? Welsh companies only? Welsh internet customers buying from English firms? Nuts and written by someone who has no idea how stuff works.FMOB said:
The fact is kids are not required to learn about food and nutrition which means they don't have the knowledge to make any kind of informed or even half-informed decision about what they eat.
Unfortunately the next generation are also following the same path as their parents..
The lack of education about food and nutrition is the problem but fiddling at the edges is cheaper.
Kids receive education on nutrition and food throughout their education.Unfortunately the next generation are also following the same path as their parents..
The lack of education about food and nutrition is the problem but fiddling at the edges is cheaper.
But their home and school environment, and their peer group, are a far greater influence.
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