The Next Conservative Leader

[Mr Penguin]

I don't mean to leak the content of Rishi's upcoming speech, but there are rumours that there may be a new Tory leader going into the next election.

A few questions arise:
Should Rishi resign immediately or hang around for six months?
Should the Conservatives appoint an experienced caretaker (maybe Hunt) to give them time and space to have a civil war and sort themselves out or go for a LOTO who can become PM?
Who should/will it be?

[Gecko1978]

Not Hunt. Awful Chancellor.

Also Rishi was a steady pair of hands worked out well didn't it.

Best bet leave rishi there speak to the party find out what it an right voters wanted and then pick someone aligned with that

[Countdown]

I think he resigns but stays on as caretaker for 2-3 months while a leadership campaign happens, with the aim of a new Leader being in place before the Tory Party conference the longer it takes the more bhy in-fighting there will be and the more long-term grudges and divisions.

[andy43]

Mr Penguin said:

I don't mean to leak the content of Rishi's upcoming speech, but there are rumours that there may be a new Tory leader going into the next election.

A few questions arise:
Should Rishi resign immediately or hang around for six months?
Should the Conservatives appoint an experienced caretaker (maybe Hunt) to give them time and space to have a civil war and sort themselves out or go for a LOTO who can become PM?
Who should/will it be?

<consults very short list of remaining experienced caretakers>
Err, yeah, Hunt

[king arthur]

Who exactly is there left to choose from?

[Mr Penguin]

andy43 said:

<consults very short list of remaining experienced caretakers>
Err, yeah, Hunt

Pretty much - it's either him or someone from the Lords if you want someone experienced but removed from the next battles for Downing St.

[Countdown]

Gecko1978 said:

Best bet leave rishi there speak to the party find out what it an right voters wanted and then pick someone aligned with that

The Party members wanted Liz Truss.

[sugerbear]

Here is what I think will happen..

Sunak will hold on, rating will continue to plummet, eventually MP's will out him, there will be another bun fight for the leadership with all the worst candidates being selected and the great and the good of the membership electing another poor choice. Another couple of years then polls will show nothing has changed. they will then get desperate and do some god awful deal with reform and most likely that deal will involve Farage being leader. Things wont improve, they will love the next election as well. Farage will then "reform" the Conservative Party into his own image.. more of the same. and rinse and repeat.

[Randy Winkman]

I really hope they are patient and put in a care-taker for a while. The last thing we need is a big panic in the aftermath of the GE about Reform and woke nonsense. We need (in my view) to have a leadership debate that concentrates on the economy, NHS etc

[AmyRichardson]

king arthur said:

Who exactly is there left to choose from?

That was my immediate thought, but a quick skim of the Sunak cabinet reveals a fair number of credible faces, as well as a few "swung and missed" familiars from previous competitions - who might fancy another go.

Being fatalistic I think the party needs a period of wallowing, the membership will pick some horror who makes them feel good but who won't improve the party electorally (but may squeeze Reform, which will help them going forward) before the next election. The long view is the novelty of opposition wearing thin and Cameron #2 being found, but right now it's beyond us to guess who that will be.

[Last Visit]

The vision they have portrayed over a great many recent years is that of a self obsessed party that is prepared to spend more time and energy on political bickering amongst themselves than actually running the bloody country. Unity and consistent leadership seemingly banned words as evidenced by the changing PM circus we have seen over the past 8 or so years.

As long as they continue to do similar they can remain in opposition as far as I'm concerned as thats the best they will be deserving of.

[MiniMan64]

It's going to be Braverman isn't it?

[Chris Type R]

Gecko1978 said:

Not Hunt. Awful Chancellor.

Also Rishi was a steady pair of hands worked out well didn't it.

I think that it was Rishi (as Chancellor) who was responsible for some of the depth of the financial hole that we find ourselves in. Spending during Covid was profligate, with little oversight and accountibility.

[S600BSB]

Definitely Jezza Hunt - lead the party back towards the centre. Experienced, able, decent.

[Countdown]

MiniMan64 said:

It's going to be Braverman isn't it?

Hope so

[8.4L 154]

Wonder if Labour will challenge Badenoch's seat, she won by about 1600 votes and there were about 1600 postal votes not sent out in her constituency. A challenge could see a re-run by-election which would render her a candidate rather than sitting MP and ineligible for the leadership role until decided

[CanAm]

Countdown said:

The Party members wanted Liz Truss.

It didn't take much to realise (despite her world famous success in opening new pork markets) that if there was a Nobel Prize for being promoted beyond your ability she would be the undisputed all time winner.

[SmoothCriminal]

Shame Hunt and a few others that were the reason for the tory downfall managed to keep their seats.

They really needed a purge of all the one nation tories and their sympathisers to rise again as a truly conservative party.

[valiant]

MiniMan64 said:

It's going to be Braverman isn't it?

Bookies saying Badenock.

Tories fked either way.

[Jordie Barretts sock]

Last Visit said:

The vision they have portrayed over a great many recent years is that of a self obsessed party that is prepared to spend more time and energy on political bickering amongst themselves than actually running the bloody country. Unity and consistent leadership seemingly banned words as evidenced by the changing PM circus we have seen over the past 8 or so years.

As long as they continue to do similar they can remain in opposition as far as I'm concerned as thats the best they will be deserving of.

If you look at results last night, and combine the Tory and Reform votes, it would have been a much closer result. Labour didn't significantly raise their support. They benefitted from a split in the centre right.

Whoever leads the Conservatives needs to be a strong and charismatic person. They need to stamp on division and move the party further right. Not extreme right, but somewhere where the core voters, the blue rinse at the golf club can identify with.

They need to reclaim the void that Reform is filling.