Voting out of fear
Discussion
I'm close to 60 as is my OH. We've never voted in aGE before, not have our adult children as we all felt they could not
be trusted.
However, having worked all of our lives and making do without in order to ensure we kept a rood over our head by way
of buying our own homes and then a BTL, plus some savings and all this for our retirement as we don't want to be a burden on the state.
We all fear Labour will samk down people who have not only worked, worked hard and at times 7 days a week and often in the past 70 hours a week. Labour will raise taxes, hit our pension plans and carry our a review of the council tax banding meaning only one thing, a rise in council tax
We are, my parents were immigartans from India in 1959 and they taught us that buying your own property was target number one and everything else came after that and no borrowing on monies other than for property or business
We are self-employed as well and fear Labour has to hit someone, and it will be those like us in the middle.
Labour will also allow unchecked illegal immigration and this will wind up the right wing as we have already noted in the last couple of years.
We are all voting Conservatives, not because we trust them but they are a better alternative to a much more damaging party for on nation, the UK
Are you voting our of fear like us?
be trusted.
However, having worked all of our lives and making do without in order to ensure we kept a rood over our head by way
of buying our own homes and then a BTL, plus some savings and all this for our retirement as we don't want to be a burden on the state.
We all fear Labour will samk down people who have not only worked, worked hard and at times 7 days a week and often in the past 70 hours a week. Labour will raise taxes, hit our pension plans and carry our a review of the council tax banding meaning only one thing, a rise in council tax
We are, my parents were immigartans from India in 1959 and they taught us that buying your own property was target number one and everything else came after that and no borrowing on monies other than for property or business
We are self-employed as well and fear Labour has to hit someone, and it will be those like us in the middle.
Labour will also allow unchecked illegal immigration and this will wind up the right wing as we have already noted in the last couple of years.
We are all voting Conservatives, not because we trust them but they are a better alternative to a much more damaging party for on nation, the UK
Are you voting our of fear like us?
TownIdiot said:
All makes perfect sense to me.
If you haven't voted in 42 years may as well use the first one on this lot- they have been pretty special after all
Get your kids on board as well. Make a day of it then watch the outcome on TV with popcorn and stuff.
The funny thing is when I started out, ie work, got married at 18, both me and my Mrs were lol at those that banged on about "high taxes.." as we were ready to pay "higher taxes" as we were basic rate and paying higher rates meant we'd be earning more. Come the time we bought our own house, moved out from my parent's home, pay went up etc and then we fell into the higher income bracket before going into business, we felt it was unfair,If you haven't voted in 42 years may as well use the first one on this lot- they have been pretty special after all
Get your kids on board as well. Make a day of it then watch the outcome on TV with popcorn and stuff.
All five of our children are on incomes where they don't get a penny in tax allowances, Tax should be fair and reward those who work and not the other way around or those that are big business as they two groups often pay little tax.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
FordMustangEV said:
BoRED S2upid said:
Never be afraid of the unknown.
Labour is "known," and I vividly recall the mess they left us in. The mother of my son will lose her job in a small prep school when Labour bring in an envy tax based on class politics. I suspect when they realise they can whack VAT on University fees, they'll do that too.
I'm no Tory, but I'd rather s
t in my hands and clap than vote for Labour.I predict this thread will be in NP&E very shortly, or there's a mirror thread already running.
FordMustangEV said:
The funny thing is when I started out, ie work, got married at 18, both me and my Mrs were lol at those that banged on about "high taxes.." as we were ready to pay "higher taxes" as we were basic rate and paying higher rates meant we'd be earning more. Come the time we bought our own house, moved out from my parent's home, pay went up etc and then we fell into the higher income bracket before going into business, we felt it was unfair,
All five of our children are on incomes where they don't get a penny in tax allowances, Tax should be fair and reward those who work and not the other way around or those that are big business as they two groups often pay little tax.
Well that's me convinced.All five of our children are on incomes where they don't get a penny in tax allowances, Tax should be fair and reward those who work and not the other way around or those that are big business as they two groups often pay little tax.
I'll make sure I cast my vote to ensure those on 100k plus get their tax allowance back. It's not like this lot have had enough time to sort it out so it must be them - will give them 14 more more years then see how I feel.
eharding said:
The irony is that the OP has now been disenfranchised by the movement of the thread to NP&E and the associated PistonWang effect.
Perhaps the right stand for Parliament should also be predicated upon a minimum of 12 months membership and 1000 posts on PH.
That would be a great way to get an increase the speed limit on motorways. I'm in favour.Perhaps the right stand for Parliament should also be predicated upon a minimum of 12 months membership and 1000 posts on PH.
FordMustangEV said:
I'm close to 60 as is my OH. We've never voted in aGE before, not have our adult children as we all felt they could not
be trusted.
However, having worked all of our lives and making do without in order to ensure we kept a rood over our head by way
of buying our own homes and then a BTL, plus some savings and all this for our retirement as we don't want to be a burden on the state.
We all fear Labour will samk down people who have not only worked, worked hard and at times 7 days a week and often in the past 70 hours a week. Labour will raise taxes, hit our pension plans and carry our a review of the council tax banding meaning only one thing, a rise in council tax
We are, my parents were immigartans from India in 1959 and they taught us that buying your own property was target number one and everything else came after that and no borrowing on monies other than for property or business
We are self-employed as well and fear Labour has to hit someone, and it will be those like us in the middle.
Labour will also allow unchecked illegal immigration and this will wind up the right wing as we have already noted in the last couple of years.
We are all voting Conservatives, not because we trust them but they are a better alternative to a much more damaging party for on nation, the UK
Are you voting our of fear like us?
Don't be afraid to vote, that's all I can say. It's relatively harmless.be trusted.
However, having worked all of our lives and making do without in order to ensure we kept a rood over our head by way
of buying our own homes and then a BTL, plus some savings and all this for our retirement as we don't want to be a burden on the state.
We all fear Labour will samk down people who have not only worked, worked hard and at times 7 days a week and often in the past 70 hours a week. Labour will raise taxes, hit our pension plans and carry our a review of the council tax banding meaning only one thing, a rise in council tax
We are, my parents were immigartans from India in 1959 and they taught us that buying your own property was target number one and everything else came after that and no borrowing on monies other than for property or business
We are self-employed as well and fear Labour has to hit someone, and it will be those like us in the middle.
Labour will also allow unchecked illegal immigration and this will wind up the right wing as we have already noted in the last couple of years.
We are all voting Conservatives, not because we trust them but they are a better alternative to a much more damaging party for on nation, the UK
Are you voting our of fear like us?
But also, how else do you expect public services that you (and everyone else) rely on to improve without raising tax, given what's been going on with inflation and wages rising etc?
FordMustangEV said:
BoRED S2upid said:
Never be afraid of the unknown.
Labour is "known," and I vividly recall the mess they left us in. My dad also used to talk about Labour and their 97% tax regime that saw many leave the countryGassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff