Cyclists injured on Motorway
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Cyclists injured while riding on motorway in Scotland
https://news.stv.tv/west-central/cyclist-fighting-...
https://news.stv.tv/west-central/cyclist-fighting-...
If it's the junction I think it is, it's likely they came over the Kincardine bridge - there is a cycle path on the edge of it but if they went over it on the road (it looks just like a normal single lane road at that point and probably beforehand) they could have found themselves on the motorway if they weren't paying attention.
fake edit - this is where the A876 turns into the M876, they would have had two chances to turn off it, this is the second one.
fake edit - this is where the A876 turns into the M876, they would have had two chances to turn off it, this is the second one.
EmailAddress said:
I don't know the area, but a quick map check suggests that would be a road that one could potentially mistake for a dual carriageway.
I’m not sure about that, it’s a busy stretch of the M9 with motorway signage right above where the accident took place. I hope the cyclist makes a full recovery but it’s crazy to think he was on that stretch of road in the first place.ETA Junction 7
Edited by tim0409 on Friday 28th June 17:30
I don’t think they were playing silly games, but I’ve done that route a few times in each direction and don’t remember going on that dual carriageway, there are slightly longer side roads to get to wherever you’re going.
Don’t remember being on the road over the bridge either but coming from the north can see how it wouldn’t seem dangerous to do so. 5pm on a Sunday, I doubt it’s a huge amount of traffic. Situation probably escalated quicker than they realised.
edit - ignore the above, they were seemingly heading towards the bridge not from it, so f
k knows how/why they got onto the motorway. :-/
Don’t remember being on the road over the bridge either but coming from the north can see how it wouldn’t seem dangerous to do so. 5pm on a Sunday, I doubt it’s a huge amount of traffic. Situation probably escalated quicker than they realised.
edit - ignore the above, they were seemingly heading towards the bridge not from it, so f
k knows how/why they got onto the motorway. :-/Edited by ScotHill on Friday 28th June 17:44
EmailAddress said:
Cats_pyjamas said:
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
I don't know the area, but a quick map check suggests that would be a road that one could potentially mistake for a dual carriageway. Without any more info, it's probably best not to speculate, and simply wish the injured well, and those involved a rapid return to normality.
When I saw the thread title and the link to STV news I thought it was going to be about an accident on the M8 between Charing X and Townhead. I’ve seen quite a few cyclists on that stretch, I think it’s non locals following Sat Navs that are set in car rather than cycle mode. A cyclist is inevitably going to be killed on this section eventually, though it might help if some of the old “no cyclists, no horse drawn vehicles, no motorcycles under 50cc” signs were put up (in pictogram form) at the end of the slip roads.
alangla said:
When I saw the thread title and the link to STV news I thought it was going to be about an accident on the M8 between Charing X and Townhead. I’ve seen quite a few cyclists on that stretch, I think it’s non locals following Sat Navs that are set in car rather than cycle mode.
I ended up riding a tiny bit of the motorway in Glasgow, turning right here to get to Springburn but missing that it was the left fork after the turn, not the right fork. Realised pretty quickly though and walked the bike back up the next slip road.https://www.google.com/maps/@55.8643995,-4.2374953...
And there were those guys in town for the Commonwealth Games who were riding down the M74 (I think), they likely just didn't realise the road laws and thought it was the perfect big road to train on!
But yeah, Glasgow is rubbish for motorway junctions intersecting with normal town roads.
alangla said:
When I saw the thread title and the link to STV news I thought it was going to be about an accident on the M8 between Charing X and Townhead. I’ve seen quite a few cyclists on that stretch, I think it’s non locals following Sat Navs that are set in car rather than cycle mode. A cyclist is inevitably going to be killed on this section eventually, though it might help if some of the old “no cyclists, no horse drawn vehicles, no motorcycles under 50cc” signs were put up (in pictogram form) at the end of the slip roads.
Or a sign saying, no road users who haven’t read the Highway Code, and who are thick as mince, should be using this stretch of MOTORWAY (the big clue is MOTORWAY) whilst trying to improve their Strava best performances. I hope they make a full recovery and learn their lesson, but in no way should the driver be responsible when the muppets have been so irresponsible and illegally riding on the MOTORWAY. This seems like Darwinism in action, although they have had, fortunately for them, a lucky escape. What was it about the blue signs denoting MOTORWAY that these clowns failed to grasp?
EmailAddress said:
You think someone on a motorway is unable to see a cyclist?
You might see them whilst travelling at 70mph, but whether you have enough time to avoid them is another matter. It’s why pedestrians and motorways don’t mix particularly well either.Edited by tim0409 on Friday 28th June 20:30
They wouldn’t be looking for them or expecting them to be there, definitely, or even expecting a slow moving vehicle to be mixed in with the fast moving traffic. Would affect assessment and reaction times.
Video shows two flat bar bikes with ass-saver mudguards so unlikely to be Strava folk.
Video shows two flat bar bikes with ass-saver mudguards so unlikely to be Strava folk.
Cats_pyjamas said:
If you have closing speeds in excess of 60mph with traffic lane changing and setting up to come off at the split. I cannot imagine how dangerous this situation would have been. Simply crazy.
Cars simply could not anticipate this.
Hmm, how about a broken down motorcycle ? A loose sheep, debris in the road ?Cars simply could not anticipate this.
Not advocating cycling on motorways but when driving there are many obstructions that can present themselves and you can’t just say they couldn’t anticipate something.
People make mistakes, some are just not very smart, some do stuff that is legal but still daft, like I see cyclists on the A34 bypass near where I live, technically legal, actually stupid.
Diderot said:
Or a sign saying, no road users who haven’t read the Highway Code, and who are thick as mince, should be using this stretch of MOTORWAY (the big clue is MOTORWAY) whilst trying to improve their Strava best performances. I hope they make a full recovery and learn their lesson, but in no way should the driver be responsible when the muppets have been so irresponsible and illegally riding on the MOTORWAY.
This seems like Darwinism in action, although they have had, fortunately for them, a lucky escape. What was it about the blue signs denoting MOTORWAY that these clowns failed to grasp?
In my experience it’s not the Strava brigade on the M8, it’s either Deliveroo/Just Eat type food delivery riders or what appear to be tourists on Nextbikes (Glasgow equivalent of a Boris Bike). This seems like Darwinism in action, although they have had, fortunately for them, a lucky escape. What was it about the blue signs denoting MOTORWAY that these clowns failed to grasp?
As to the “big blue signs” they’re not that big at the top of the slips in Glasgow, particularly J18 eastbound which seems to be the favourite for cyclists joining & IIRC, they’re not obvious until you’re on the actual slip.
Edited by alangla on Friday 28th June 20:35
You’ve just joined a motorway, you haven’t been hypnotised by hours of cruise driving here.
You shouldn’t be running into anything in the daylight.
I suspect tourists not understanding the signs as this turns from a dual carriageway to a motorway, you don’t actively join it, you need to actively leave it.
Doubt it’s Strava or Deliveroos knobs.
You shouldn’t be running into anything in the daylight.
I suspect tourists not understanding the signs as this turns from a dual carriageway to a motorway, you don’t actively join it, you need to actively leave it.
Doubt it’s Strava or Deliveroos knobs.
EmailAddress said:
There is quite some arrogance of thought in this thread. Those thinking they should have a completely uninhibited 1x Lepton cruise without hindrance.
Perhaps a moment to reconsider sight lines and consider stopping distances and what scenarios might occur where one may need to anchor on.
Not too advocate any particular activities.
But every thread is an opportunity to evaluate and learn.
Perhaps a moment to reconsider sight lines and consider stopping distances and what scenarios might occur where one may need to anchor on.
Not too advocate any particular activities.
But every thread is an opportunity to evaluate and learn.
on the myriad country lanes around here, I drive to the conditions, the limited sight lines, and I give cyclists, pedestrians and horse riders at least a lane’s worth of room, otherwise I won’t pass (I do get beeped by people but given the state of the roads, I’m not going to jeopardise a cyclist’s welfare). If some brain dead eejits do not understand the Highway Code then what do they or you expect? Someone doing a legal 70mph to slow down to 25 mph whilst some fktards are riding illegally on the motorway? See those blue signs right there? it is illegal to ride a bike on them for a very good reason: eejits might and most likely will get hurt. I hope the driver is compensated for the trauma caused by these fools. matchmaker said:
It looks nothing like a dual carriageway - it is clearly a motorway. I use it regularly and was caught up in this. It happened several weeks ago.
What doe a motorway look like as compared to a dual carriageway, except for the colour of signs?Oh, and yes. That's a Pedestrian Crossing on the motorway.
Edited by Solocle on Friday 28th June 20:56
EmailAddress said:
Diderot said:
on the myriad country lanes around here, I drive to the conditions, the limited sight lines, and I give cyclists, pedestrians and horse riders at least a lane’s worth of room, otherwise I won’t pass (I do get beeped by people but given the state of the roads, I’m not going to jeopardise a cyclist’s welfare). If some brain dead eejits do not understand the Highway Code then what do they or you expect? Someone doing a legal 70mph to slow down to 25 mph whilst some fktards are riding illegally on the motorway? See those blue signs right there? it is illegal to ride a bike on them for a very good reason: eejits might and most likely will get hurt. I hope the driver is compensated for the trauma caused by these fools. king up other humans that you can see, because you consider them mentally inferior to you.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff