Wimbledon schools deaths - no charges
Wimbledon schools deaths - no charges
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numtumfutunch

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5,165 posts

166 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4448xx4keo

Clearly a huge catastrophe for all however how common is it to have a first fit as an adult in the absence of injury, tumour or meningitis?


BikeBikeBIke

14,377 posts

143 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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My MiL had her first fit in her 30s and clearly something happened.

Either way the prosecution has to get beyond reasonable doubt, and I guess they couldn't.

Tragic.

Vanden Saab

17,775 posts

102 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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numtumfutunch said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4448xx4keo

Clearly a huge catastrophe for all however how common is it to have a first fit as an adult in the absence of injury, tumour or meningitis?
25% of the 80 diagnosed daily are over 65. How many of those were unrelated to an associated reason is unknown.

Drclarke

1,201 posts

201 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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A tragic accident, and it was just that an accident.

I feel for the parents of the children killed, but saying they have been denied justice is wrong.

Locking the woman involved up for something she had no control over won’t change the situation or ease their grief.

The woman will also be suffering for the rest of her life.


Earthdweller

19,014 posts

154 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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Drclarke said:
A tragic accident, and it was just that an accident.

I feel for the parents of the children killed, but saying they have been denied justice is wrong.

Locking the woman involved up for something she had no control over won’t change the situation or ease their grief.

The woman will also be suffering for the rest of her life.
Indeed just about sums it up

The Coroner’s inquest will fill in the blanks where the families will be able to hear the expert medical testimony

Poor Girls

kestral

2,210 posts

235 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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The first sizure she ever has.....and ....... it happens when she is driving.... and....... directly towards a childrens school.

That takes some believing for me!

But there again O J Simpson was not guilty of murder.

Drumroll

4,470 posts

148 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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kestral said:
The first sizure she ever has.....and ....... it happens when she is driving.... and....... directly towards a childrens school.

That takes some believing for me!

But there again O J Simpson was not guilty of murder.
Good job we have people that throughly investigate (Just look at the time it has taken to make their decision) these things then.

markh1973

3,015 posts

196 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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kestral said:
The first sizure she ever has.....and ....... it happens when she is driving.... and....... directly towards a childrens school.

That takes some believing for me!

But there again O J Simpson was not guilty of murder.
Sometimes tragic accidents are just tragic accidents

Douglas Quaid

2,635 posts

113 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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kestral said:
The first sizure she ever has.....and ....... it happens when she is driving.... and....... directly towards a childrens school.

That takes some believing for me!

But there again O J Simpson was not guilty of murder.
So what do you think is the truth then? She deliberately killed a couple of kids?

Some people have seizures. They can’t predict them. It’s a horrible situation but locking someone up for having a seizure makes no sense. It’s just an accident.

WonkeyDonkey

2,576 posts

131 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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Shocking, punishments for killing while driving are so tamely punished.

Her choice of car in a built up area must have some blame for the outcome.

If she had be driving a k11 Micra I doubt it would have got through the front gates, but having a dead weight on the accelerator of a 2.5T 300bhp+ car is always going to cause serious damage in a built up area.

Don Roque

18,275 posts

187 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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I wonder if the kids would have lived if she hadn't been driving an 2500kg soft-roader rather than something more suited to the urban environment.

Earthdweller

19,014 posts

154 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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Douglas Quaid said:
kestral said:
The first sizure she ever has.....and ....... it happens when she is driving.... and....... directly towards a childrens school.

That takes some believing for me!

But there again O J Simpson was not guilty of murder.
So what do you think is the truth then? She deliberately killed a couple of kids?

Some people have seizures. They can’t predict them. It’s a horrible situation but locking someone up for having a seizure makes no sense. It’s just an accident.
I’ve dealt with plenty of drivers having medical episodes

Sometimes people just die whilst driving a car from natural causes, I can guarantee they never did it before and won’t ever again nor did they choose when it would happen

Drumroll

4,470 posts

148 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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Don Roque said:
I wonder if the kids would have lived if she hadn't been driving an 2500kg soft-roader rather than something more suited to the urban environment.
Or she could have been driving a 3 tonne motorhome.

At what point does society say what type of vehicle someone can own?

thebraketester

15,720 posts

166 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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kestral said:
The first sizure she ever has.....and ....... it happens when she is driving.... and....... directly towards a childrens school.

That takes some believing for me!
The door for this thread is over there >>>>>>> please use it and shut it behind you. Thank you.

Edited by thebraketester on Wednesday 26th June 20:07

Earthdweller

19,014 posts

154 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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said:
It’s a ridiculous comment

We recently had the incident of the school bus driver dying at the wheel which resulted in not only his death but one of the children he was driving to school

Trust me a car weighing far less would likely still prove fatal to someone, particularly a child pinned underneath it

There are 10’s thousands of far heavier vehicles than land rovers driving continually on city streets

vaud

58,937 posts

183 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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kestral said:
The first sizure she ever has.....and ....... it happens when she is driving.... and....... directly towards a childrens school.

That takes some believing for me!

But there again O J Simpson was not guilty of murder.
Ahh our resident "legal expert" has a view.

Good job we have real experts to investigate.

sir humphrey appleby

1,797 posts

250 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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I had my first blackout seizure when I was 42, absolutely no indication whatsoever that I would ever have one. Thank god I was at home at the time. Second time I was in the bathroom and smashed my head on the basin.
Couldn’t drive for two years and now on medication for the rest of my life.
If she had such a seizure before and had not been on medication at the time and then had the accident then the CPS would have a very different view.
It can happen to anyone at any time.
Utterly tragic accident and for anyone to suggest that the driver is to blame is being absurd.

WonkeyDonkey

2,576 posts

131 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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Drumroll said:
Or she could have been driving a 3 tonne motorhome.

At what point does society say what type of vehicle someone can own?
When we start holding people accountable for damages their choice of vehicle causes.

eharding

14,648 posts

312 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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anonymous said:
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How do £££ and the ability to afford a proper defence influence the CPS decision?

BikeBikeBIke

14,377 posts

143 months

Wednesday 26th June 2024
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kestral said:
The first sizure she ever has.....and ....... it happens when she is driving.... and....... directly towards a childrens school.

That takes some believing for me!
So what theory of the case would you find more credible? If you rule out something medical what else would cause someone to randomly floor it into a fence?