HMRC chasing 50p Stamp Duty underpayment

HMRC chasing 50p Stamp Duty underpayment

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Rufus Stone

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8,245 posts

63 months

Monday 24th June
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It's pleasing to note that they won't let us oiks get away with any shenanigans. Probably cost more in postage to notify the tax payer though.


bmwmike

7,372 posts

115 months

Monday 24th June
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Rufus Stone said:
It's pleasing to note that they won't let us oiks get away with any shenanigans. Probably cost more in postage to notify the tax payer though.
They owe me £900 since January and still no sign of it.

I wrote to them to declare a mistake on my giftaid going back a few years, and they replied with a letter today telling me its too late to amend an SA (i know, I said it in my letter) and asking me to write, which I already had, as they were replying to my letter with a letter. More curiously, their letter said they were enclosing a copy of my letter, but there was nothing else in the envelope. I think they have simply given up.


Rufus Stone

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8,245 posts

63 months

Monday 24th June
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Strangely they owe my business £3700. No sign of that.

catso

14,853 posts

274 months

Monday 24th June
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Doesn't surprise me one bit, they are arse-wipes of the highest order IME.

Recently they 'amended' my tax code by doubling my income (if only) thereby increasing the amount of tax I pay. I tried to correct it online but no joy so I had to call them.

42 minutes on hold/wait until I got through at 35p/min (though I think/hope it's free on my mobile plan?) to tell them it was wrong and no answer as to why they suddenly decided I had doubled my income.

And it's not the first time they've done similar. Still, I suppose they've got to pay for Rishi's wish list somehow...

XCP

17,180 posts

235 months

Monday 24th June
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I got a letter, threatening dire consequences if I did not pay up.
For an underpayment of tax of

20p.

Yes, that is twenty pence.

Diderot

8,146 posts

199 months

Monday 24th June
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Mrs D is owed £3k ish since January. Not a dicky bird. If I am 1 minute late with their ‘balancing payment’ arsery in July, they’ll be charging interest. Shower of s. I think that’s the phrase.

lizardbrain

2,470 posts

44 months

Monday 24th June
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In my limited experience, if you call up they can be very human about this kind of thing when you speak to them.

Derek Smith

46,497 posts

255 months

Monday 24th June
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I was told I owed them circa £10k because I failed to comply with a deadline. I was unable to find the deadline on their site. I phoned, got through, and the chap admitted they did not publish the deadline. Who do I appeal to? Them.

I was then told that the chap could see I did not owe the £10k, but would have to pay it. If I did not pay them within 12 days I would be charged interest and receive a fine for every day over. They would reimburse me within 6 weeks. I told my wife it would be 6 months. But they pulled out all the stops and I was allowed to have my money within 5.

£10k within two weeks. I had investments, but I would lose a considerable amount getting access to it. Went to my bank of over 20 years and asked for a short-term loan, no more than 6 months. When I told them what it was for they increased the rate I was charged. Nothing they could do about it evidently. There was something I could do, and that was tell them, after getting the loan, but only for a year, and I'd be penalised for finishing early, that I would cancel my account.

Wish I could do the same with HMRC. I now have accountants. Cost a bit, but at least I'm more confident.

thebraketester

14,708 posts

145 months

Monday 24th June
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XCP said:
I got a letter, threatening dire consequences if I did not pay up.
For an underpayment of tax of

20p.

Yes, that is twenty pence.
Send them 20 cheques for 1p

Cheib

23,761 posts

182 months

Monday 24th June
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bmwmike said:
They owe me £900 since January and still no sign of it.
They’ve owed me £11k since February last year which they promised they’d actioned in August last year….

Clearly I wasn’t allowed to offset that £11k they owe me against the tax bill I had in January. They are such utter s. It is totally deliberate.
When my accountant speaks to them to query something the standard response is “we need a letter to action it” which they then either lose or ignore….

Blue62

9,382 posts

159 months

Tuesday 25th June
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After the global financial crisis of 2007/8 my company’s turnover dropped by @25% and ebit by a similar amount, we supplied services to the financial sector. They wrote to my auditors and asked them to explain what had happened to the business, I guess it was all driven by some automated trigger system, but it summed up the futility of trying to interact on a meaningful level.

If you ever have the misfortune of meeting directly with a tax inspector you’ll know that they’re a different breed, very different.

Essarell

1,690 posts

61 months

Tuesday 25th June
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They sent us £2219 last June, same time as an expected CIS refund. Our bank did query it as it had a ref number issue that they spotted but as we've had no communication from HMRC it's sitting on the accounts, I'm sure the accountant recorded it as a creditor or credit falling due? anyway they don't seem to fussed for it back.

Derek Smith

46,497 posts

255 months

Tuesday 25th June
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I know you should avoid clichés like the plague, especially those past their sell-by date, but HMRC epitomises Kafkaesque. You are passed from one person to another until you are told that they’ll put you back to the switchboard. Screams of ‘No!’ are ignored.

mac96

4,434 posts

150 months

Tuesday 25th June
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thebraketester said:
XCP said:
I got a letter, threatening dire consequences if I did not pay up.
For an underpayment of tax of

20p.

Yes, that is twenty pence.
Send them 20 cheques for 1p
Terrible idea. They will lose 17 of them and charge you a huge penalty for underpayment of 17p.

XCP

17,180 posts

235 months

Tuesday 25th June
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mac96 said:
thebraketester said:
XCP said:
I got a letter, threatening dire consequences if I did not pay up.
For an underpayment of tax of

20p.

Yes, that is twenty pence.
Send them 20 cheques for 1p
Terrible idea. They will lose 17 of them and charge you a huge penalty for underpayment of 17p.
I wouldn't have a clue how to get a chequebook.

jan8p

1,742 posts

235 months

Tuesday 25th June
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They owe me £400 from last year's self assessment which I've requested 6 times and has never been paid.

Panamax

5,089 posts

41 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Derek Smith said:
I know you should avoid clichés like the plague, especially those past their sell-by date, but HMRC epitomises Kafkaesque.
Very true. I did my online Self Assessment and they said there would be some tax due. Just received a Statement, expecting it to show tax due by 31 July but it says there's tax already overdue and with interest running. Strange they didn't get around to mentioning that a month ago in the Self Assessment calculation.

The harsh reality is UK's tax system is now so complicated nobody at HMRC actually understands it. All they have are low paid clerical staff who trot out "computer says".

The comedy of watching PAYE trying to deal with multiple sources of income is enough to make you laugh or cry, according to taste.