Well Fargo fires WFH slackers!!
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Article refers to the US, but I suspect it won't be long before it's introduced over here.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjll01220yeo
Nothing to worry if you are WFH as expected, but if you are reading this post during office hours, you better watch out!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjll01220yeo
Nothing to worry if you are WFH as expected, but if you are reading this post during office hours, you better watch out!
chip* said:
Article refers to the US, but I suspect it won't be long before it's introduced over here.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjll01220yeo
Nothing to worry if you are WFH as expected, but if you are reading this post during office hours, you better watch out!
I'm sure Windows 11 'Recall' won't be used by some employers to monitor employees excessively...https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjll01220yeo
Nothing to worry if you are WFH as expected, but if you are reading this post during office hours, you better watch out!
Do we really want to live in a world where our every move is recorded for scrutiny by 'those above us' as to whether or not we are exhibiting 'correct' behaviour?
I can see the firm I work for doing this. You hear things such as, I just do what is asked of me, finish my work and the rest of the week is my own and/or people using AI tools to write reports.
I don't WFH, however I do work across multiple platforms, so I may be logged in on one platform, but actually doing work on another...which may be interesting.
I don't WFH, however I do work across multiple platforms, so I may be logged in on one platform, but actually doing work on another...which may be interesting.
t over this lol!chip* said:
Article refers to the US, but I suspect it won't be long before it's introduced over here.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjll01220yeo
Nothing to worry if you are WFH as expected, but if you are reading this post during office hours, you better watch out!
The second line of the report says that it isn't known whether it specifically relates to people working from home.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjll01220yeo
Nothing to worry if you are WFH as expected, but if you are reading this post during office hours, you better watch out!
as covid took hold and WFH suddenly became the norm I was asked quite a lot about productivity trackers for home workers, that included things like mouse and keyboard trackers the shocking thing was the one that used the laptop camera to take a picture every 5 minutes to make sure someone was sat at the desk.
simon_harris said:
as covid took hold and WFH suddenly became the norm I was asked quite a lot about productivity trackers for home workers, that included things like mouse and keyboard trackers the shocking thing was the one that used the laptop camera to take a picture every 5 minutes to make sure someone was sat at the desk.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/webcam-cover/s?k=webcam+c...jshell said:
simon_harris said:
as covid took hold and WFH suddenly became the norm I was asked quite a lot about productivity trackers for home workers, that included things like mouse and keyboard trackers the shocking thing was the one that used the laptop camera to take a picture every 5 minutes to make sure someone was sat at the desk.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/webcam-cover/s?k=webcam+c...Are we transfixed on presenteeism? It seems a lot of companies want people back in the office, not for collaboration reasons but for monitoring staff. Some jobs must have some kind of expectation of how much someone should complete in a week, if someone does it in 4 days for an extra day off, should they be penalised?
One thing I can't get my head around is that we are constantly reminded about climate change. People walking from their bedrooms to their office removes a lot of carbon footprint, less cars on the road, less requirement for more office space to be built. It seems that argument holds no weight when the government are asking the civil service to go back to the office full time?
One thing I can't get my head around is that we are constantly reminded about climate change. People walking from their bedrooms to their office removes a lot of carbon footprint, less cars on the road, less requirement for more office space to be built. It seems that argument holds no weight when the government are asking the civil service to go back to the office full time?
Chicken Chaser said:
Are we transfixed on presenteeism? It seems a lot of companies want people back in the office, not for collaboration reasons but for monitoring staff. Some jobs must have some kind of expectation of how much someone should complete in a week, if someone does it in 4 days for an extra day off, should they be penalised?
Probably a lot of this mixed up with US employment rules and employee protection being (generally) a lot less on the employees side than tends to be the case this side of the pond around monitoring and "at will" employment etc.
Chicken Chaser said:
Are we transfixed on presenteeism? It seems a lot of companies want people back in the office, not for collaboration reasons but for monitoring staff. Some jobs must have some kind of expectation of how much someone should complete in a week, if someone does it in 4 days for an extra day off, should they be penalised?
One thing I can't get my head around is that we are constantly reminded about climate change. People walking from their bedrooms to their office removes a lot of carbon footprint, less cars on the road, less requirement for more office space to be built. It seems that argument holds no weight when the government are asking the civil service to go back to the office full time?
100% this - presentism is the hall mark of managers that cant manage.One thing I can't get my head around is that we are constantly reminded about climate change. People walking from their bedrooms to their office removes a lot of carbon footprint, less cars on the road, less requirement for more office space to be built. It seems that argument holds no weight when the government are asking the civil service to go back to the office full time?
I'm not sure how watching Youtube whilst working from home is any different to going into the office, spending 20 minutes to make a coffee, stand around and discuss last night's tv, hosting daily meetings that are mostly filled with chit-chat, finding a reason to need to travel to a different site and using the travel as part of your shift etc.
mwstewart said:
I've seen some Zscaler logs that were eye-opening. Think three day YT and Soundcloud sessions.
The bit I always tried to impress on managers or HR whenever any sort of "what has so and so been doing?" log quest was that I could produce a report that is 5 pages long that might represent someone simply loading a website or I could produce a report 1 line long that may represent an activity that took up someones entire afternoon.I've always been massively nervous about attempts to almost outsource management responsibilities to the IT overlords which is something I think can very easily happen with stuff like this.
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