Welsh govt VONC

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hidetheelephants

Original Poster:

27,828 posts

200 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Loses a VONC, cries, won't resign. Wales is vying with Scotland and NI for the title of worst run devolved parliament.

Mercdriver

2,638 posts

40 months

Wednesday 5th June
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They have a long way to go to beat Scotlands record

SAB888

3,458 posts

214 months

Wednesday 5th June
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hidetheelephants said:
Loses a VONC, cries, won't resign. Wales is vying with Scotland and NI for the title of worst run devolved parliament.
In my opinion Wales already has that trophy sadly.

robscot

2,506 posts

197 months

Wednesday 5th June
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So the guy who brought in the widely disliked 20MPH was 'ill' so did not support the First Minister, and the member who was leaking messages and was sacked by the First Minister also was 'ill' and did not support him.

I am shocked!

Vanden Saab

14,794 posts

81 months

Wednesday 5th June
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And Starmer still supports him. Will this be his pincher moment? Amusing that he also says that Labour in Wales is his blueprint for power. It seems he meant hanging on to it after losing a no confidence vote. Even Useless stepped down after losing a similar vote.

chemistry

2,452 posts

116 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Crying…how pathetic. What a loser.

hidetheelephants

Original Poster:

27,828 posts

200 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Vanden Saab said:
And Starmer still supports him. Will this be his pincher moment? Amusing that he also says that Labour in Wales is his blueprint for power. It seems he meant hanging on to it after losing a no confidence vote. Even Useless stepped down after losing a similar vote.
Humza resigned before a VONC could be taken.

Dingu

4,366 posts

37 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Vanden Saab said:
And Starmer still supports him. Will this be his pincher moment? Amusing that he also says that Labour in Wales is his blueprint for power. It seems he meant hanging on to it after losing a no confidence vote. Even Useless stepped down after losing a similar vote.
Obviously synonymous situations….

contango

2,341 posts

261 months

Wednesday 5th June
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chemistry said:
Crying…how pathetic. What a loser.
Who does he think he is Lesley Gore? smile




(it's my party & I'll cry if I want to!)

Boom78

1,326 posts

55 months

Wednesday 5th June
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I recommend watching on catch up the BBC Wales Investigates special from earlier this week about where his money comes from and who he’s opened doors for, he’s either v v thick, v v gullible, totally tone deaf or missing a moral compass, possibly all four!!. Either way he’s not fit for the job.

PaulWoof

1,651 posts

162 months

Wednesday 5th June
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"The first minister said that he and "so many people of colour have been traduced and vilified merely for raising concerns about how some of these debates have been handled"."

beautifully played

troika

1,976 posts

158 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Born Guessing.

The hopeless devolved govt was certainly a factor in me moving out of Wales.

Carl_VivaEspana

13,178 posts

269 months

Thursday 6th June
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is Wales a failed state?

zarjaz1991

3,729 posts

130 months

Thursday 6th June
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Carl_VivaEspana said:
is Wales a failed state?
It’s not even a state.

The Welsh “government” should be renamed Cymru County Council and their powers reduced to match.

e600

1,380 posts

159 months

Thursday 6th June
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Overall, on balance I think the experiment of these parish councils has failed and it’s time to end them.

Can anyone identify a positive in their history or a reason to continue with them. Another layer of government and additional expense. Get rid.

alangla

5,200 posts

188 months

Thursday 6th June
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e600 said:
Overall, on balance I think the experiment of these parish councils has failed and it’s time to end them.

Can anyone identify a positive in their history or a reason to continue with them. Another layer of government and additional expense. Get rid.
But but
Sturgeon said:
Baby boxes!
I’d support a referendum on dissolution of the Scottish and Welsh assemblies. Not sure what the view is in Northern Ireland, up till recently it looked like there was actually some progress being made but (from the outside looking in) it seems it may now have gone the way of the other two

Digga

41,339 posts

290 months

Thursday 6th June
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zarjaz1991 said:
Carl_VivaEspana said:
is Wales a failed state?
It’s not even a state.

The Welsh “government” should be renamed Cymru County Council and their powers reduced to match.
It’s time to admit devolution in the UK has, widely, been an expensive disaster.

Having ‘more’ politicians is always the wrong answer.

macron

10,784 posts

173 months

Thursday 6th June
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Sterner has confidence in him this morning.

Oh dear.

Boom78

1,326 posts

55 months

Thursday 6th June
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Even as a proud Welshman I’ve said many times that I would be happy to see the senedd bulldozed into Cardiff Bay and power given back to Westminster. I don't know what they do or any justification for its expense! A bunch of powerless self serving parish council level types acting like MPs who couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery!

Wills2

24,406 posts

182 months

Thursday 6th June
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The example of Welsh labour is making me think twice on the run up to the election on whether to vote for Starmer.