Welsh govt VONC
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hidetheelephants

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33,249 posts

215 months

Wednesday 5th June 2024
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Loses a VONC, cries, won't resign. Wales is vying with Scotland and NI for the title of worst run devolved parliament.

Mercdriver

3,000 posts

55 months

Wednesday 5th June 2024
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They have a long way to go to beat Scotlands record

SAB888

4,031 posts

229 months

Wednesday 5th June 2024
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hidetheelephants said:
Loses a VONC, cries, won't resign. Wales is vying with Scotland and NI for the title of worst run devolved parliament.
In my opinion Wales already has that trophy sadly.

robscot

2,510 posts

212 months

Wednesday 5th June 2024
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So the guy who brought in the widely disliked 20MPH was 'ill' so did not support the First Minister, and the member who was leaking messages and was sacked by the First Minister also was 'ill' and did not support him.

I am shocked!

Vanden Saab

17,225 posts

96 months

Wednesday 5th June 2024
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And Starmer still supports him. Will this be his pincher moment? Amusing that he also says that Labour in Wales is his blueprint for power. It seems he meant hanging on to it after losing a no confidence vote. Even Useless stepped down after losing a similar vote.

chemistry

3,067 posts

131 months

Wednesday 5th June 2024
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Crying…how pathetic. What a loser.

hidetheelephants

Original Poster:

33,249 posts

215 months

Wednesday 5th June 2024
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Vanden Saab said:
And Starmer still supports him. Will this be his pincher moment? Amusing that he also says that Labour in Wales is his blueprint for power. It seems he meant hanging on to it after losing a no confidence vote. Even Useless stepped down after losing a similar vote.
Humza resigned before a VONC could be taken.

Dingu

4,893 posts

52 months

Wednesday 5th June 2024
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Vanden Saab said:
And Starmer still supports him. Will this be his pincher moment? Amusing that he also says that Labour in Wales is his blueprint for power. It seems he meant hanging on to it after losing a no confidence vote. Even Useless stepped down after losing a similar vote.
Obviously synonymous situations….

contango

2,383 posts

276 months

Wednesday 5th June 2024
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chemistry said:
Crying…how pathetic. What a loser.
Who does he think he is Lesley Gore? smile




(it's my party & I'll cry if I want to!)

Boom78

1,473 posts

70 months

Wednesday 5th June 2024
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I recommend watching on catch up the BBC Wales Investigates special from earlier this week about where his money comes from and who he’s opened doors for, he’s either v v thick, v v gullible, totally tone deaf or missing a moral compass, possibly all four!!. Either way he’s not fit for the job.

PaulWoof

1,714 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th June 2024
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"The first minister said that he and "so many people of colour have been traduced and vilified merely for raising concerns about how some of these debates have been handled"."

beautifully played

troika

2,064 posts

173 months

Wednesday 5th June 2024
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Born Guessing.

The hopeless devolved govt was certainly a factor in me moving out of Wales.

Carl_VivaEspana

15,744 posts

284 months

Thursday 6th June 2024
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is Wales a failed state?

zarjaz1991

5,601 posts

145 months

Thursday 6th June 2024
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Carl_VivaEspana said:
is Wales a failed state?
It’s not even a state.

The Welsh “government” should be renamed Cymru County Council and their powers reduced to match.

e600

1,522 posts

174 months

Thursday 6th June 2024
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Overall, on balance I think the experiment of these parish councils has failed and it’s time to end them.

Can anyone identify a positive in their history or a reason to continue with them. Another layer of government and additional expense. Get rid.

alangla

6,192 posts

203 months

Thursday 6th June 2024
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e600 said:
Overall, on balance I think the experiment of these parish councils has failed and it’s time to end them.

Can anyone identify a positive in their history or a reason to continue with them. Another layer of government and additional expense. Get rid.
But but
Sturgeon said:
Baby boxes!
I’d support a referendum on dissolution of the Scottish and Welsh assemblies. Not sure what the view is in Northern Ireland, up till recently it looked like there was actually some progress being made but (from the outside looking in) it seems it may now have gone the way of the other two

Digga

45,712 posts

305 months

Thursday 6th June 2024
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zarjaz1991 said:
Carl_VivaEspana said:
is Wales a failed state?
It’s not even a state.

The Welsh “government” should be renamed Cymru County Council and their powers reduced to match.
It’s time to admit devolution in the UK has, widely, been an expensive disaster.

Having ‘more’ politicians is always the wrong answer.

macron

12,637 posts

188 months

Thursday 6th June 2024
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Sterner has confidence in him this morning.

Oh dear.

Boom78

1,473 posts

70 months

Thursday 6th June 2024
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Even as a proud Welshman I’ve said many times that I would be happy to see the senedd bulldozed into Cardiff Bay and power given back to Westminster. I don't know what they do or any justification for its expense! A bunch of powerless self serving parish council level types acting like MPs who couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery!

Wills2

27,897 posts

197 months

Thursday 6th June 2024
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The example of Welsh labour is making me think twice on the run up to the election on whether to vote for Starmer.