Nick Adderley - model policeman or not?
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Surprised not to see this case being commented on here as this chap has (or perhaps had) a few fans on PH as an exemplar CC.
All seems a bit odd if the media reporting is fair…
Medal allegedly worn by police chief Nick Adderley was a copy, panel told https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptons...
All seems a bit odd if the media reporting is fair…
Medal allegedly worn by police chief Nick Adderley was a copy, panel told https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptons...
He seems to be a bulls
tter of the highest (lowest) order.
What's more sad is that the few folk I've spoken with who’ve met him-operational officers and a reasonably senior civil servant-were impressed by him. They believed him to be a Good Bloke.
Be interesting to see what the outcome-the bottom line-is regarding pension etc.
tter of the highest (lowest) order.What's more sad is that the few folk I've spoken with who’ve met him-operational officers and a reasonably senior civil servant-were impressed by him. They believed him to be a Good Bloke.
Be interesting to see what the outcome-the bottom line-is regarding pension etc.
Edited by standards on Thursday 30th May 16:41
Edited by standards on Thursday 30th May 16:44
LimaDelta said:
Ignoring the specific walty-nature of the discretion, in more general terms, are dishonesty and lack of integrity desirable characteristics for a person in such a role?
Similar thing happened to Ch.Supt. (I think that was his rank at the time) in my force. Got spotted by an old forces comrade at some charity dinner wearing an Afghan medal, despite never serving there. In fact he PVRd shortly after basic training. And he was an absolute asshat..
I know him, I’ve worked with him and for him at a time before he reached Chief Officer level but when he was a Divisional Commander
The whole thing leaves me quite angry and saddened at the same time
I’d always thought he’d been a Lt Commander in the Navy, it seems that was the general consensus although I don’t think it was him that told me but someone else
I do recall having a brief conversation with him about the Navy as I had two uncles that were Chief P.O.’s
I don’t recall the specifics but it was innocuous enough
As for the man, he came across as very genuine and with a real concern and care for his staff and their wellbeing ( my role at the time was workforce planning/resourcing) something I was heavily involved with
He was a good decision maker and took some pretty bold decisions and was. It afraid to stand up for the division and against Command
I recall him refusing to have a particular Superintendant posted to the Division and going head to head with the Chief over it .. and winning
That particular officer was totally unfit for the job and query corrupt but I’m not going into that can of worms
I didn’t know him personally or out of the workplace but I did over a period of a year or so have a lot of contact with him in the workplace and I’d say he was one of the best Chief Superintendents I’ve worked for
He came across as not only very competent but also caring compassionate decent and cough honest and straightforward. I never felt he was working an angle, unlike many others who you always had to be wary of their motives/decision making
The whole thing has left me with a grubby feeling, one almost of betrayal.
There’s no place at all for dishonesty and deceit at all in the Police.
His whole career was based on a pack of lies, his promotions built on falsehoods and deceit which seems doubly sad as quite clearly he was a capable individual who may have reached the same position without lying and was quite capable of doing the job as he proved
I think he deserves everything he gets but I do feel an element of personal sadness and betrayal if that makes sense set against the anger I have for what he has done
The whole thing leaves me quite angry and saddened at the same time
I’d always thought he’d been a Lt Commander in the Navy, it seems that was the general consensus although I don’t think it was him that told me but someone else
I do recall having a brief conversation with him about the Navy as I had two uncles that were Chief P.O.’s
I don’t recall the specifics but it was innocuous enough
As for the man, he came across as very genuine and with a real concern and care for his staff and their wellbeing ( my role at the time was workforce planning/resourcing) something I was heavily involved with
He was a good decision maker and took some pretty bold decisions and was. It afraid to stand up for the division and against Command
I recall him refusing to have a particular Superintendant posted to the Division and going head to head with the Chief over it .. and winning
That particular officer was totally unfit for the job and query corrupt but I’m not going into that can of worms
I didn’t know him personally or out of the workplace but I did over a period of a year or so have a lot of contact with him in the workplace and I’d say he was one of the best Chief Superintendents I’ve worked for
He came across as not only very competent but also caring compassionate decent and cough honest and straightforward. I never felt he was working an angle, unlike many others who you always had to be wary of their motives/decision making
The whole thing has left me with a grubby feeling, one almost of betrayal.
There’s no place at all for dishonesty and deceit at all in the Police.
His whole career was based on a pack of lies, his promotions built on falsehoods and deceit which seems doubly sad as quite clearly he was a capable individual who may have reached the same position without lying and was quite capable of doing the job as he proved
I think he deserves everything he gets but I do feel an element of personal sadness and betrayal if that makes sense set against the anger I have for what he has done
Chrisgr31 said:
Seems Earthdweller hits the nail on the head. The suggestion from everything I read is that he was a good officer and good at the job.
However it seems he may not have been honest with his CV.
It’s rather ironic it takes a dishonest CV to get a great officer.
I think you are obviously attempting a whitewash on this charlatan because it goes far far deeper than being honest about a CV . Are you aware about the criminal investigation that's been opened against Adderley and another Senior Officer in Staffordshire his previous Police Force about corruption in the awarding of Vehicle Maintenance Contracts ? Interesting that in everything you read you evidently failed to miss this fact .However it seems he may not have been honest with his CV.
It’s rather ironic it takes a dishonest CV to get a great officer.
Pupp said:
Surprised not to see this case being commented on here as this chap has (or perhaps had) a few fans on PH as an exemplar CC.
All seems a bit odd if the media reporting is fair…
Medal allegedly worn by police chief Nick Adderley was a copy, panel told https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptons...
To be honest with you its a complete disgrace that the hearing is being held in private with reporting restrictions in place . All seems a bit odd if the media reporting is fair…
Medal allegedly worn by police chief Nick Adderley was a copy, panel told https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptons...
Chrisgr31 said:
However it seems he may not have been honest with his CV.
It’s rather ironic it takes a dishonest CV to get a great officer.
I would posit that someone exhibiting that level of dishonesty in a job application will usually also, when push comes to shove, exhibit dishonesty in other circumstances. He's not fit to be a police officer.It’s rather ironic it takes a dishonest CV to get a great officer.
reddiesel said:
No Comment , the last refuge for the Scoundrel
No matter how innocent you are anything and everything you say helps the prosecution:https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE?si=THihW4JjCVxD-fXr
standards said:
He seesm to be a bullstter of the highest (lowest) order.
What's more sad is that the few folk I've spoken with you've met him-operational officers and a reasonably senior civil servant-were impressed by him. They believed him to be a Good Bloke.
Be interesting to see what the outcome-the bottom line-is regarding pension etc.
He pulled the wool across all of their eyes including some turnips posting on this thread . Its taken a disgruntled ex wife to expose the Northamptonshire Police vetting service as not being fit for purpose . Meanwhile £168,000 per year is currently still being paid when the whole lot should be reclaimed as its been paid as a result of a fraud . tter of the highest (lowest) order.What's more sad is that the few folk I've spoken with you've met him-operational officers and a reasonably senior civil servant-were impressed by him. They believed him to be a Good Bloke.
Be interesting to see what the outcome-the bottom line-is regarding pension etc.
BikeBikeBIke said:
No matter how innocent you are anything and everything you say helps the prosecution:
https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE?si=THihW4JjCVxD-fXr
Its Northamptonshire , its a riot of greed and corruption and everyone knows it .https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE?si=THihW4JjCVxD-fXr
This was previously mentioned, but only in the lengthy Walts thread when it came out.
Several interesting things I've noted during my reading.
- There are no written or verbal quotes of him ever claiming to have served in the Falklands, or the rank he achieved. This meant he could claim that the things written about him were not correct, but had to claim that he never read any of them so could not ask for corrections. This was obviously pointed out as being ludicrous, especially as he signed off one of the force's own articles with praise.
- Apparently his brother, whose medal he claimed to have worn, was pictured wearing the medal with a rosette which he would not have been eligible for since his service was outside the main conflict. Apparently he did apply for the medal *after* his brother's deceptions came to light. Presumably his own medal in the picture would also have been a replica.
- Incredibly, the MoD expert *threw away* the medal after inspecting it. Apparently it was engraved, but there's no details as to what name/rank was engraved, and some dispute if a service number was engraved. There's also some dispute if the medal inspected was the medal sent, because somehow it was sent in a police evidence bag but with no cover note. Quite why the expert decided to throw away something which very likely looked like criminal evidence... if this were to go to a criminal trial I can't see how any of their evidence would stand up in court.
Several interesting things I've noted during my reading.
- There are no written or verbal quotes of him ever claiming to have served in the Falklands, or the rank he achieved. This meant he could claim that the things written about him were not correct, but had to claim that he never read any of them so could not ask for corrections. This was obviously pointed out as being ludicrous, especially as he signed off one of the force's own articles with praise.
- Apparently his brother, whose medal he claimed to have worn, was pictured wearing the medal with a rosette which he would not have been eligible for since his service was outside the main conflict. Apparently he did apply for the medal *after* his brother's deceptions came to light. Presumably his own medal in the picture would also have been a replica.
- Incredibly, the MoD expert *threw away* the medal after inspecting it. Apparently it was engraved, but there's no details as to what name/rank was engraved, and some dispute if a service number was engraved. There's also some dispute if the medal inspected was the medal sent, because somehow it was sent in a police evidence bag but with no cover note. Quite why the expert decided to throw away something which very likely looked like criminal evidence... if this were to go to a criminal trial I can't see how any of their evidence would stand up in court.
Don't know him, but know his sort and serial bullstters like this, well, this is tip of the iceberg stuff.
You don't fabricate a story and persona, in order to "better yourself" get a promotion, or big job, or contract and ever be "happy" with your lot, just as you were not "happy" with yer lot before the bullst!
Its a disgrace what he has done and its also a disgrace and quite ironic that he managed to hoodwink the police force, the very people that should be able to wean out bullstters and those dealing in falsehoods.
tters like this, well, this is tip of the iceberg stuff. You don't fabricate a story and persona, in order to "better yourself" get a promotion, or big job, or contract and ever be "happy" with your lot, just as you were not "happy" with yer lot before the bulls
t! Its a disgrace what he has done and its also a disgrace and quite ironic that he managed to hoodwink the police force, the very people that should be able to wean out bulls
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