Nursery Worker Strapping Baby Face Down Onto a Bean Bag

[Oliver Hardy]

Gets 14 years for killing her

Should have been life

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/great...

[ChocolateFrog]

Did she explain why she strapped it face down?

Literally only one outcome from doing that, beyond sadistic.

[milkround]

ChocolateFrog said:

Did she explain why she strapped it face down?

Literally only one outcome from doing that, beyond sadistic.

"It"?

He/She was a human who was totally reliant on those around him or her. He/she wasn't an 'it'.

That baby's parents trusted the system. They trusted the people in the nursery. We have to pay for full time nursery for our 10 month old daughter. With the cost of living and being fairly normal people we have no choice. For the pleasure we pay well north of a grand a month. It's more than our mortgage.

The idea of someone abusing her or hurting her would fill me with pain and rage. And I wouldn't be too happy about someone referring to my little girl as 'it' either.

[Mr Penguin]

I don't really understand why this wasn't murder. Seems fairly obvious that if you do that then the baby will die.

[Electro1980]

Probably willing to plead guilty to manslaughter so the judge and prosecution choose to go with that rather than a protracted, and painful, murder trial that might have the same result or the same sentence anyway. The sentence is quite high for manslaughter, which makes me think the difference would have come down to arguing over whether it was a reasonably foreseeable result.

Edited by Electro1980 on Monday 27th May 19:26

[tim0409]

Electro1980 said:

Probably willing to plead guilty to manslaughter so the judge and prosecution choose to go with that rather than a protracted, and painful, murder trial that might have the same result or the same sentence anyway. The sentence is quite high for manslaughter, which makes me think the difference would have come down to arguing over whether it was a reasonably foreseeable result.

Edited by Electro1980 on Monday 27th May 19:26

She was convicted by a jury following a trial; she didn’t plead guilty to anything.

Having read the details of the case as the trial was ongoing (I wish I hadn’t) I was hoping for a longer sentence (circa 20 years). The actions that caused the child’s death were bad enough, but that followed on from a week of taunting and abusing the poor girl. I normally hate the talk of prison vigilantes, but in this case I suspect she will be in for a tough time, which will be richly deserved.

I’m not sure how the parents cope with this sort of loss.

[ScotHill]

Apparently she was loosely strapped in to stop her falling off the beanbag (!) and was placed on her side originally, so it’s more not correcting the position when she ended up on her front, and ignoring the cries, and probably a multitude of other things.

I’d see it as a case of massive neglect and abrogation of responsibility, I don’t think the worker would have carried out or not carried out any actions with the intent of killing her, at least not that would have been possible to prove beyond reasonable doubt.

Does make me glad about how good our nursery is, and nurseries are simultaneously expensive for customers and low-paying for employees, without more public funding that’s not really going to change.

[Amused2death]

The judgement and sentencing remarks are on YouTube. It's very uncomfortable listening. Poor thing, and absolutely devastated for the parents.