Regulatory bodies

[tamore]

is there a single one actually doing what they were set up to do rather than being in the pockets of those they are regulating?

[Oliver Hardy]

tamore said:

is there a single one actually doing what they were set up to do rather than being in the pockets of those they are regulating?

Ofcom?

[xx99xx]

Civil Aviation Authority?

[Ian Geary]

The information commissioners office?

[Electro1980]

Financial Reporting Council?
The general medical council?

[Jasandjules]

tamore said:

is there a single one actually doing what they were set up to do rather than being in the pockets of those they are regulating?

Not found one yet.

[LimmerickLad]

Lets see what the SRA do in relation to the PO lawyers.

[tegwin]

xx99xx said:

Civil Aviation Authority?

You’re joking right?

Have you had dealings with them? Ask any pilot/operator and you will hear stories of pain and suffering. In the eyes of the CAA the safest flight is one that never leaves the ground…. They appear to work pretty hard to make that a reality… Makes running an aviation business or innovating technology exceptionally hard!

[Derek Smith]

tegwin said:

xx99xx said:

Civil Aviation Authority?

You’re joking right?

Have you had dealings with them? Ask any pilot/operator and you will hear stories of pain and suffering. In the eyes of the CAA the safest flight is one that never leaves the ground…. They appear to work pretty hard to make that a reality… Makes running an aviation business or innovating technology exceptionally hard!

So not in the pocket of those it is regulating?

[Rollin]

General Dental Council

[skwdenyer]

Ian Geary said:

The information commissioners office?

I have no idea what the ICO do all day; whatever it is, it doesn’t seem to involve regulating anything very much. They’re not so much in the pocket of those they regulate so much as seemingly just scared to actually regulate.

[blueg33]

tamore said:

is there a single one actually doing what they were set up to do rather than being in the pockets of those they are regulating?

Yup

Charities Commission
Social Housing Regulator
CQC

I am on the board of a business that is regulated by those three. We have to jump through many hoops. For instance, get governance wrong = no social housing grant, get care wrong = fewer clients and more inspections.

[tamore]

blueg33 said:

Yup

Charities Commission
Social Housing Regulator
CQC

I am on the board of a business that is regulated by those three. We have to jump through many hoops. For instance, get governance wrong = no social housing grant, get care wrong = fewer clients and more inspections.

well it's good to hear that they can be set up and do their role properly. shame it can't be said of the ones where big money is involved.

[MikeM6]

I would say Ofsted is fairly well known for not being in the pockets of schools or local authorities.

[Mastodon2]

When the MHRA take action, they can be swift, decisive and utterly devastating to the companies they take action against, particularly where public safety is concerned.

[tamore]

MikeM6 said:

I would say Ofsted is fairly well known for not being in the pockets of schools or local authorities.

i'll add incompetent to the list then

[OMITN]

Mastodon2 said:

When the MHRA take action, they can be swift, decisive and utterly devastating to the companies they take action against, particularly where public safety is concerned.

Agreed. I have to deal with them.

Also GPhC don’t seem to be in the pockets of pharmacists, but instead set rigorous standards trust are inspected shed followed.

Edit:

SRA - anyone can see the disciplinary cases they have taken to the SDT. I recall the junior lawyer who was struck off for putting referees on their CV before they had asked those referees….

ICO - just fined PSNI £750k. They have been given more power now.

Edited by OMITN on Saturday 25th May 10:35

[shed driver]

The nursing and midwifery council (NMC) list the sanctions against every registrant. There's no shortage of hearings every month.

https://www.nmc.org.uk/concerns-nurses-midwives/he...

I never seemed to get anything for my registration fees, other than a shiny booklet every year tell me about their new offices and how many staff were being sanctioned.

SD.

[PurplePenguin]

Rollin said:

General Dental Council

Funny

[Jimbo.]

Many - if not all - of the problems can be traced back to a lack of funding. The regulatory staff are told to “prioritise” their work, with the threshold getting higher and higher every year with each round of funding cuts. Add to that poor staff retention (due to pay, conditions, whatever), difficulties in recruitment (see pay/conditions) and recruitment freezes as managers are hit with more cuts, and there’re simply less people to do the work in the first place. Whilst all that is going on, said same regulator is told to “work with” whoever it is they’re regulating, as a) it’s cheaper that proper enforcement (with legal costs etc), b) big enforcement cares don’t hit the headlines and make the offender (usually big business) and Govt. look bad, and c) so that the powers-that-be can claim _something_ is being done on paper at least. All that administered by staff who’d love to have a proper crack at said offenders (ie do their job and protect whatever it is they set out to) but can’t, who then suffer low morale, and so on, and so on…