Make things more expensive to help - ticket tax

[Gecko1978]

BBC News - Arena and stadium ticket tax needed to save local venues, MPs say - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c72pgdm4n97o

Is it just me or is it a case of MPs having no ideas beyond tax...

Why is it we need to make things harder for people to pay for to subsidise things they don't want to pay for.

What about reducing business rates on smaller venues, reducing corp tax or VAT. Nope let's just charge people more for things they like.

[Dingu]

So your idea is to spend money from general taxation? Massively different…

[Tankrizzo]

Have they actually seen the cost of major music event tickets? Maybe tax Ticketmaster for a cut of their daft 'fees' to be returned to pubs and clubs would be a good start.

[98elise]

Dingu said:

So your idea is to spend money from general taxation? Massively different…

It's better than penalisinging those already spending their money on tickets. If a local venue isn't pulling in crowds taxing another venue isn't the answer.

[Dracoro]

You just know the ticket companies will add a “venue tax admin/processing charge” on top of the tax too…

[Gecko1978]

Dingu said:

So your idea is to spend money from general taxation? Massively different…

No my suggestion is to make it cheaper for smaller venues to operate. Not to spend etc. So if rates at a venue are reduced the venue may survive if not it closes and becomes a coffee shop normal rates apply either way economy wins.

[BOR]

The point, Gecko, is that it is in the interests of the arenas, that new bands come through out of the pub circuit to feed the arenas.

If you make it harder and harder for new bands to build a fan base, then ultimately, you won't have anyone new to perform in the arenas, therefore, the arenas need to fund the supply channels.

[Gecko1978]

BOR said:

The point, Gecko, is that it is in the interests of the arenas, that new bands come through out of the pub circuit to feed the arenas.

If you make it harder and harder for new bands to build a fan base, then ultimately, you won't have anyone new to perform in the arenas, therefore, the arenas need to fund the supply channels.

An artist in America became no1 in the billboards without a record company he is totally independent...so you don't need big brands to be a success you need a product people like. Tom Mcdonald I think he was called saw it on YouTube few weeks back. Anyway point is we don't need tax we need talented artists a and small venues not put out of business by high busiess rates.

[Dagnir]

If I'm not mistaken, they even had the hubris to mention that inflation was the cause and the only answer was more tax.


How can you possibly be arrogant enough that you have the gall to say that in a public statement when we know they caused the issue in the first place?


Rubbing our faces in it and calling us stupid all in one go.


Absolute ***ts.

[Kermit power]

Gecko1978 said:

An artist in America became no1 in the billboards without a record company he is totally independent...so you don't need big brands to be a success you need a product people like. Tom Mcdonald I think he was called saw it on YouTube few weeks back. Anyway point is we don't need tax we need talented artists a and small venues not put out of business by high busiess rates.

Isn't that how the Arctic Monkeys started as well?

[Gecko1978]

Kermit power said:

Gecko1978 said:

An artist in America became no1 in the billboards without a record company he is totally independent...so you don't need big brands to be a success you need a product people like. Tom Mcdonald I think he was called saw it on YouTube few weeks back. Anyway point is we don't need tax we need talented artists a and small venues not put out of business by high busiess rates.

Isn't that how the Arctic Monkeys started as well?

Don't know but they were talented was perhaps the key. Other small artists that have done it on their own (based on tiktok). Chinchilla (little girl gone), Ren, there will be more. Tax is not the answer but it's one politicians think we believe and seems some on here do.

Also look at issues at CO-OP arena a big venue still can't get act together.

[Electro1980]

The pub circuit is all but dead, not because of big venues but because it’s just not how bands get exposure now. This is just pointless meddling for a new nostalgic middle aged people who don’t go to gigs anyway. Teens and 20 somethings just don’t go to the pub generally.

[KAgantua]

If the only tool you have is a hammer...

[andyA700]

Electro1980 said:

The pub circuit is all but dead, not because of big venues but because it’s just not how bands get exposure now. This is just pointless meddling for a new nostalgic middle aged people who don’t go to gigs anyway. Teens and 20 somethings just don’t go to the pub generally.

The pub scene is very much alive and kicking. Down in Kent, we have multiple live music pubs in all the towns.

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/whats-on/news/nine-of...

[Electro1980]

Well in that case they don’t need some silly venue tax. Either way, big arenas are not harming small venues