Why is there so much hatred and conflict in the world?

Why is there so much hatred and conflict in the world?

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Rufus Stone

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8,248 posts

63 months

Saturday 11th May
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I can't help wondering if it's because the current generations have no knowledge of the atrocities of large scale war. I think the human race is regressing not progressing. You might think that globalisation of business and largely worldwide access to information and people via the internet would make people realise that we are one planet and need to get along, but the red lines on the map are just getting brighter.

Fast and Spurious

1,563 posts

95 months

Saturday 11th May
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It seems that way if you spend too much time on the internet. Turn it off.

sherbertdip

1,190 posts

126 months

Saturday 11th May
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Rufus Stone said:
I can't help wondering if it's because the current generations have no knowledge of the atrocities of large scale war. I think the human race is regressing not progressing. You might think that globalisation of business and largely worldwide access to information and people via the internet would make people realise that we are one planet and need to get along, but the red lines on the map are just getting brighter.
Name a period in human's time when bloodshed has not occurred?

We are an emotion driven species which often leads to tribalism and hence violence, the utopia of peace and harmony is what most want, most of the time, but that inner switch to violence can be flicked very easily.

Slowboathome

4,460 posts

51 months

Saturday 11th May
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I see it on a global scale and locally, in family relationships and intimate ones too. And I include myself in that.

I think it's a combination of factors:

- we're chimps with extra processing power. And chimps are aggressive.

- we've not evolved to deal with the 21st century.

- less than perfect parenting.

- loss of important social structures

Jordie Barretts sock

6,018 posts

26 months

Saturday 11th May
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Usually it's territory or religion, or both.

Rufus Stone

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8,248 posts

63 months

Saturday 11th May
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Slowboathome said:
I see it on a global scale and locally, in family relationships and intimate ones too. And I include myself in that.

I think it's a combination of factors:

- we're chimps with extra processing power. And chimps are aggressive.

- we've not evolved to deal with the 21st century.

- less than perfect parenting.

- loss of important social structures
Yes, agree with a lot of that. We will soon have AI taking over as humans can't cope. scratchchin

Mr Penguin

2,717 posts

46 months

Saturday 11th May
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All social animals want power, influence and resources to secure their position. We are no different.

200bhp

5,681 posts

226 months

Saturday 11th May
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Slowboathome said:
I see it on a global scale and locally, in family relationships and intimate ones too. And I include myself in that.

I think it's a combination of factors:

- we're chimps with extra processing power. And chimps are aggressive.

- we've not evolved to deal with the 21st century.

- less than perfect parenting.

- loss of important social structures
Religion - You missed the most divisive thing in the world that causes many, many conflicts and wars.

Slowboathome

4,460 posts

51 months

Saturday 11th May
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200bhp said:
Slowboathome said:
I see it on a global scale and locally, in family relationships and intimate ones too. And I include myself in that.

I think it's a combination of factors:

- we're chimps with extra processing power. And chimps are aggressive.

- we've not evolved to deal with the 21st century.

- less than perfect parenting.

- loss of important social structures
Religion - You missed the most divisive thing in the world that causes many, many conflicts and wars.
Fair points. Maybe I see religion as part of tribalism (which I didn't mention either). Humans identify as 'us' and 'them' whether in terms of religion, postcode, race or football team.

CrgT16

2,112 posts

115 months

Saturday 11th May
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Power and greed are at the core, sometimes disguised as ideology or religion.

Rufus Stone

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8,248 posts

63 months

Saturday 11th May
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Slowboathome said:
Fair points. Maybe I see religion as part of tribalism (which I didn't mention either). Humans identify as 'us' and 'them' whether in terms of religion, postcode, race or football team.
Sad really. Why can't we identify as one tribe of planet earth? Maybe we need to be formally visited by extra-terrestrials for that to happen.

swisstoni

18,198 posts

286 months

Saturday 11th May
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The op has asked a very deep question and a forum is not really an appropriate place to address it.
So obviously, here’s my halfarsed attemp at an answer hehe

What sums up one of the dilemmas facing humanity today is a phrase spawned by it; TL;DR.

A sea of information and no time to deal with it all.
No time to split the gold from the crap.
And there has always been more crap around than gold.

Carl_VivaEspana

13,178 posts

269 months

Saturday 11th May
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200bhp said:
Slowboathome said:
- loss of important social structures
Religion - You missed the most divisive thing in the world that causes many, many conflicts and wars.
hehe

Slowboathome

4,460 posts

51 months

Saturday 11th May
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Carl_VivaEspana said:
200bhp said:
Slowboathome said:
- loss of important social structures
Religion - You missed the most divisive thing in the world that causes many, many conflicts and wars.
hehe
Ha!

Slowboathome

4,460 posts

51 months

Saturday 11th May
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Rufus Stone said:
I can't help wondering if it's because the current generations have no knowledge of the atrocities of large scale war. I think the human race is regressing not progressing. You might think that globalisation of business and largely worldwide access to information and people via the internet would make people realise that we are one planet and need to get along, but the red lines on the map are just getting brighter.
Sorry, mate, I just realised I didn't really take in the main point your were making - that experience of large scale war makes you disinclined to repeat it.

I think you're right.

Dagnir

2,116 posts

170 months

Saturday 11th May
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Lack of good leadership at every level of existence/society; individually, in families, in friend groups, communities, locally, nationally and internationally.

Greed and the technology pursue it on new levels, at alarming speed. We have come to understand humans and their behaviour too well. So we now have the means to control entire populations more efficiently than ever.

Then combine all the above with religions/cults (and I'm not talking strictly theological...) and you have the mess we have now.

We also have extreme tribalism, online algorithms, and forced multiculturalism (that simply doesn't work and never will) gnawing away at social and national cohesion.


It's a wildly messy tapestry of doom eh?!


What's really odd is so many people supporting and actively encouraging the decline...

lizardbrain

2,471 posts

44 months

Saturday 11th May
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If lefty academics are to be believed, the world has got a lot more peaceful over time, and we are living in teh most peaceful, civilised and kind period of history. I havn't replicated their findings but it seems a common angle

Civilisation is still barely out the gates. A hundred years ago the world was unrecognisably more brutal. Pockets remain but in another 100 years time, it will more grown up again

Edited by lizardbrain on Saturday 11th May 08:53

Chicken Chaser

8,143 posts

231 months

Saturday 11th May
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The advancement of technology has brought everyone closer together. We can now have a conversation with the population of our adversaries almost instaneously, but at the same time we can sow social division within our own societies.

The US and China own pretty much all social platforms, Middle east is a religious tinder bed as usual, Russia pushes against Europe's preference for unity, and Africa is seeing the wealth in other developed countries via the internet and is moving out.


Pit Pony

9,242 posts

128 months

Saturday 11th May
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200bhp said:
Slowboathome said:
I see it on a global scale and locally, in family relationships and intimate ones too. And I include myself in that.

I think it's a combination of factors:

- we're chimps with extra processing power. And chimps are aggressive.

- we've not evolved to deal with the 21st century.

- less than perfect parenting.

- loss of important social structures
Religion - You missed the most divisive thing in the world that causes many, many conflicts and wars.
Religion. ? Come on everyone needs a hobby.

Pit Pony

9,242 posts

128 months

Saturday 11th May
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CrgT16 said:
Power and greed are at the core, sometimes disguised as ideology or religion.
Simply put and correct.

The root cause of all conflict is greed.

Protecting what you have, taking more of what you want, or if you have nothing, fighting to take what others have, or prevent what little you have being taken away from you.

Dress it up in religion, race, culture, and history, but mostly everything can be traced back to greed.