22 Years for murdering son
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turbobloke said:
Out in 11 ish if he cleans his teeth every night. A disgracefully short sentence, and if the guidelines say that's about right then they're also a disgrace.
He's been given a life sentence with a minimum term of 22 years. AIUI he's going to be inside for 22 years before he can be considered for parole, he's not getting out in 11 ish.QuartzDad said:
turbobloke said:
Out in 11 ish if he cleans his teeth every night. A disgracefully short sentence, and if the guidelines say that's about right then they're also a disgrace.
He's been given a life sentence with a minimum term of 22 years. AIUI he's going to be inside for 22 years before he can be considered for parole, he's not getting out in 11 ish.Caddyshack said:
QuartzDad said:
turbobloke said:
Out in 11 ish if he cleans his teeth every night. A disgracefully short sentence, and if the guidelines say that's about right then they're also a disgrace.
He's been given a life sentence with a minimum term of 22 years. AIUI he's going to be inside for 22 years before he can be considered for parole, he's not getting out in 11 ish.Others may sniff differently.
turbobloke said:
Caddyshack said:
QuartzDad said:
turbobloke said:
Out in 11 ish if he cleans his teeth every night. A disgracefully short sentence, and if the guidelines say that's about right then they're also a disgrace.
He's been given a life sentence with a minimum term of 22 years. AIUI he's going to be inside for 22 years before he can be considered for parole, he's not getting out in 11 ish.Others may sniff differently.
I wonder if the prison guards allow other prisoners to get at them when they see what they are in for or if they are kept in very secure areas?
Isn’t it also that on a sentence like that you’re very unlikely to be released on your first parole hearing ? So hopefully he’s in for at least a few more years past that minimum.
Kids / babies do drive you insane sometimes but how the hell can you do stuff like that to them, especially over a period of time aswell. Not like it was a one time snap but it was over a period of time. She should’ve got longer as she obviously knew about it or took part herself.
Kids / babies do drive you insane sometimes but how the hell can you do stuff like that to them, especially over a period of time aswell. Not like it was a one time snap but it was over a period of time. She should’ve got longer as she obviously knew about it or took part herself.
Geffg said:
Isn’t it also that on a sentence like that you’re very unlikely to be released on your first parole hearing ? So hopefully he’s in for at least a few more years past that minimum.
Kids / babies do drive you insane sometimes but how the hell can you do stuff like that to them, especially over a period of time aswell. Not like it was a one time snap but it was over a period of time. She should’ve got longer as she obviously knew about it or took part herself.
There are some very disturbed people out there, I am guessing it may be learned behaviour from their own abuse experiences or mental health issues.Kids / babies do drive you insane sometimes but how the hell can you do stuff like that to them, especially over a period of time aswell. Not like it was a one time snap but it was over a period of time. She should’ve got longer as she obviously knew about it or took part herself.
I imagine that if we had lived with these people before they had a child we would have quickly come to the realisation that they should not have been allowed to have a child (if that was a thing)
Caddyshack said:
turbobloke said:
Caddyshack said:
QuartzDad said:
turbobloke said:
Out in 11 ish if he cleans his teeth every night. A disgracefully short sentence, and if the guidelines say that's about right then they're also a disgrace.
He's been given a life sentence with a minimum term of 22 years. AIUI he's going to be inside for 22 years before he can be considered for parole, he's not getting out in 11 ish.Others may sniff differently.
I wonder if the prison guards allow other prisoners to get at them when they see what they are in for or if they are kept in very secure areas?
The absolute best, most useful advice I ever received in my entire life is:
A baby does not have the mental faculty to try and upset you. Only the reptilian hindbrain works. If they are crying, there is a simple solution that is within your gift to provide.
That was at a free, council-run antenatal seminar on baby development.
Keeping that in mind at all times helped me no end. I synthesised that into a mental checklist... When she was crying she was either too hot, too cold, hungry, wet or dirty. Run through those, and if it doesn't help then run through them again until you track down the fault.
Even at the darkest times (I was completely alone for a few weeks due to Mrs D being hospitalised) that advice made it possible to get through a 1am then 4am then 6am crying spell without getting even slightly cross with Mini D.
They need to mandate pre-parenthood education. An absence of education doesn't excuse this (and frankly he can rot) but the giving of education might prevent it and less injurious levels of abuse also.
A baby does not have the mental faculty to try and upset you. Only the reptilian hindbrain works. If they are crying, there is a simple solution that is within your gift to provide.
That was at a free, council-run antenatal seminar on baby development.
Keeping that in mind at all times helped me no end. I synthesised that into a mental checklist... When she was crying she was either too hot, too cold, hungry, wet or dirty. Run through those, and if it doesn't help then run through them again until you track down the fault.
Even at the darkest times (I was completely alone for a few weeks due to Mrs D being hospitalised) that advice made it possible to get through a 1am then 4am then 6am crying spell without getting even slightly cross with Mini D.
They need to mandate pre-parenthood education. An absence of education doesn't excuse this (and frankly he can rot) but the giving of education might prevent it and less injurious levels of abuse also.
If you think that case had too much leniency... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-67...
These s
t stains got 14 years and no custodial sentence for mum. Different circumstances, same consequences. Another poor kid who never stood a chance with their scum parents.
COVID precautions caused a massive loss of oversight of vulnerable children and now there is a slew of deaths being reported. And they're the publicised deaths. The abuse that doesn't get reported is rife.
ETA: Saw this was 2017. That's a ridiculous timeframe to wait for justice. And obviously not COVID related. But my point stands.
These s
t stains got 14 years and no custodial sentence for mum. Different circumstances, same consequences. Another poor kid who never stood a chance with their scum parents.COVID precautions caused a massive loss of oversight of vulnerable children and now there is a slew of deaths being reported. And they're the publicised deaths. The abuse that doesn't get reported is rife.
ETA: Saw this was 2017. That's a ridiculous timeframe to wait for justice. And obviously not COVID related. But my point stands.
Edited by Simbu on Wednesday 10th April 18:02
Simbu said:
ETA: Saw this was 2017. That's a ridiculous timeframe to wait for justice. And obviously not COVID related. But my point stands.
Cop on the news said it took that long to collate the medical evidenceForensic pathology on newborn and very young infants is a superspecialist area where, unfortunately, demand for expert witnesses exceeds supply
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