NHS England to stop prescribing puberty blockers

[g3org3y]

article said:

Children will no longer routinely be prescribed puberty blockers at gender identity clinics, NHS England has confirmed.

The decision comes after a review found there was "not enough evidence" they are safe or effective.

Puberty blockers, which pause the physical changes of puberty, will now only be available as part of research.

It comes weeks before an independent review into gender identity services in England is due to be published.

Link: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-68549091

[Biggy Stardust]

Why was money wasted on this in the first place?

[gamefreaks]

Children will no longer routinely be prescribed puberty blockers at gender identity clinics, NHS England has confirmed.

Routinely? Thats scary! I suspect it's a miracle that they don't work.

[ScotHill]

whats wrong with pubes anyway

[.:ian:.]

Shouldn't the evidence of something being safe and effective come before the "routine prescription" of a drug?
Or are we passed all that?

[Otispunkmeyer]

ScotHill said:

whats wrong with pubes anyway

They get in your soup?

[MikeOxhard]

ScotHill said:

whats wrong with pubes anyway

They can poke you in the eye

[105.4]

.:ian:. said:

Shouldn't the evidence of something being safe and effective come before the "routine prescription" of a drug?
Or are we passed all that?

The often intolerant Alphabet Mafia and other petulant special interests groups often have far too much control over those of influence.

Thankfully in this case, common sense has eventually prevailed.

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.:ian:. said:

Shouldn't the evidence of something being safe and effective come before the "routine prescription" of a drug?
Or are we passed all that?

For some reason they are still safe for all the other patient demographics including cis kids who will continue to receive the same drug in the same dose, just not for the 100 trans kids getting them.

[chrispmartha]

gamefreaks said:

Children will no longer routinely be prescribed puberty blockers at gender identity clinics, NHS England has confirmed.

Routinely? Thats scary! I suspect it's a miracle that they don't work.

There’s fewer than 100 children currently prescribed puberty blockers on the NHS in this country.

I’ve no issue with them being withdrawn if they are deemed not safe.

Are they also stopping using them on ‘cis’ children?

[stuckmojo]

A good decision, not a minute too soon.

[sugerbear]

chrispmartha said:

gamefreaks said:

Children will no longer routinely be prescribed puberty blockers at gender identity clinics, NHS England has confirmed.

Routinely? Thats scary! I suspect it's a miracle that they don't work.

There’s fewer than 100 children currently prescribed puberty blockers on the NHS in this country.

I’ve no issue with them being withdrawn if they are deemed not safe.

Are they also stopping using them on ‘cis’ children?

I assume the announcement has zero to do with the number of people getting them and much more about the opportunity to punch down on some people that the conservative heartlands can't stand.

[RichTT]

sugerbear said:

I assume the announcement has zero to do with the number of people getting them and much more about the opportunity to punch down on some people that the conservative heartlands can't stand.

Convincing children that they can change gender or sex, or that putting them on life altering courses of hormones is reversible, is abuse. Both mental and physical. The fact this needs stating shows how far we have fallen.

[captain_cynic]

sugerbear said:

chrispmartha said:

gamefreaks said:

Children will no longer routinely be prescribed puberty blockers at gender identity clinics, NHS England has confirmed.

Routinely? Thats scary! I suspect it's a miracle that they don't work.

There’s fewer than 100 children currently prescribed puberty blockers on the NHS in this country.

I’ve no issue with them being withdrawn if they are deemed not safe.

Are they also stopping using them on ‘cis’ children?

I assume the announcement has zero to do with the number of people getting them and much more about the opportunity to punch down on some people that the conservative heartlands can't stand.

As evidenced by the kind of posts here.

Seems to be a phallic... Sorry, phyrric victory as they're not stopping it, just reclassifying.it so they can still be prescribed on a case by case basis.

I suspect in practice nothings going to change except the hand wringing of a few in the "often intolerant" conservative hate "mafia"

[Vanden Saab]

chrispmartha said:

gamefreaks said:

Children will no longer routinely be prescribed puberty blockers at gender identity clinics, NHS England has confirmed.

Routinely? Thats scary! I suspect it's a miracle that they don't work.

There’s fewer than 100 children currently prescribed puberty blockers on the NHS in this country.

I’ve no issue with them being withdrawn if they are deemed not safe.

Are they also stopping using them on ‘cis’ children?

There is a slight difference when prescribing them for a 5 year old girl starting to develop breasts but impressive whataboutism all the same.

[Rivenink]

I see Rishi and the Tories are still trying to use Culture War bullst to rescue themselves from political oblivion.

Is it working? Are you going to vote Tory because they're sticking it to the "alphabet mafia" ?

[chrispmartha]

Vanden Saab said:

chrispmartha said:

gamefreaks said:

Children will no longer routinely be prescribed puberty blockers at gender identity clinics, NHS England has confirmed.

Routinely? Thats scary! I suspect it's a miracle that they don't work.

There’s fewer than 100 children currently prescribed puberty blockers on the NHS in this country.

I’ve no issue with them being withdrawn if they are deemed not safe.

Are they also stopping using them on ‘cis’ children?

There is a slight difference when prescribing them for a 5 year old girl starting to develop breasts but impressive whataboutism all the same.

It's not really whataboutism is it.

If they aren't safe for children then they aren't safe.

[JagLover]

RichTT said:

Convincing children that they can change gender or sex, or that putting them on life altering courses of hormones is reversible, is abuse. Both mental and physical. The fact this needs stating shows how far we have fallen.

Yep

Apparently though putting a stop to it is "culture wars"

[simon_harris]

chrispmartha said:

It's not really whataboutism is it.

If they aren't safe for children then they aren't safe.

Define safe.

Are they safe for children with a genuine biological need for them, on balance of the alternative of no treatment most likely yes, or at least more safe than doing nothing.

Are they safe for a child that could either grow up and out of whatever stage they are going through, or grow up with complex mental health needs that need properly addressing and treating before being given powerful drugs that will have them grow up with less choice and options for treatment? I would say no.

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Gender critical = Puberty blockers cause irreversible harm of weak bones and poor health.

Gender critical = The exact same drugs have no effect on trans sports performance, Someone on testosterone suppression has the same strength and physical ability as any man.

Gender critical = Puberty blockers puts girls on a pathway to identifying as a boy/man they can't escape

Gender critical = Puberty blockers are fine for 5 year old girls, for some reason they are immune to the effects of making them identify as boys/men, weak bones and poor health.

Gender critical = There is no evidence of positive outcomes from this untested medication

Truth. Puberty blockers have been in use in trans healthcare since the 1990's There are 40 year old trans people who were prescribed them in childhood living happy healthy lives.