Warwickshire hunt and the secret police deal

[BrettMRC]

https://www.channel4.com/news/fox-hunting-group-av...

I watched this on C4 news last night, they have been one of the few channels willing to publish these sorts of stories. (There was another a few weeks ago regarding the suspension of the Blackmore and Sparkford Vale hunt for breaking the law repeatedly https://www.theblackmorevale.co.uk/2024/02/03/loca... )

What was interesting about this for me was the fact it's really highlighting the "sod you" attitude the hunts now demonstrate to everyone else, and to have a serving senior policeman come out on TV and state that the hunts have not been given equal treatment is both damning but encouraging.

I live in an area where illeagal hunting of foxes and hares is absolutely rife, and locals are treated like scum by the hunt for wanting to protect our own animals - the story linked above almost exactly replicates activities seen in every part of our countryside.

Do we think Warwickshire police will be held to account?

Will this be the catalyst to have this type of hunting banned completely?

As the office interviewed said: "If this was people on motorbikes it would have been dealt with differently and we wouldn't be having this conversation"

[vixen1700]

There are no words for the absolute hatred I have of these 'people' and their barbaric 'sport'.

Hopefully this will be the catalyst to stop this fully.

In before somebody defending it mentions the safety of their fking chickens.

[rohrl]

Warwickshire Police need to be half accountable for this.

[daveco]

vixen1700 said:

There are no words for the absolute hatred I have of these 'people' and their barbaric 'sport'.

Hopefully this will be the catalyst to stop this fully.

In before somebody defending it mentions the safety of their fking chickens.

+1

I cannot understand the enjoyment one could get from this.

Posh sociopathy.

[vixen1700]

daveco said:

+1

I cannot understand the enjoyment one could get from this.

Posh sociopathy.

Not just the posh.

The working-class terriermen and the aspirational like that Vardy woman and Richard Hammond.

[trails]

vixen1700 said:

Not just the posh.

The working-class terriermen and the aspirational like that Vardy woman and Richard Hammond.

Didn't know Hammond was involved in hunting, that is disappointing as I enjoyed his workshop series and some of the DriveTribe content.

[Gareth79]

Will have to watch later, but I've seen countless videos on Twitter of masked 'thugs' using violence and intimidation against the "hunt sabs" and seemingly getting away with it.

Here's an example from recently - the police were present watched it happen and let them go:

https://twitter.com/NhantsHuntsabs/status/17565913...

Here's another - a hunt thug intimidates a hunt sab "we know where you live" and then body checks another in front of police, and they are dealing with it like teachers and a playground scrap:

https://twitter.com/NhantsHuntsabs/status/17633038...

Ah, seems he was finally arrested and 'unmasked' in a video posted today! Can't mistake that voice:

https://twitter.com/NhantsHuntsabs/status/17649534...

Edited by Gareth79 on Tuesday 5th March 14:32

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Gareth79 said:

Will have to watch later, but I've seen countless videos on Twitter of masked 'thugs' using violence and intimidation against the "hunt sabs" and seemingly getting away with it.

Here's an example from recently - the police were present watched it happen and let them go:

https://twitter.com/NhantsHuntsabs/status/17565913...

Quite tasty though that copper!

[donkmeister]

They trample across land they neither own nor have permission to, regardless of any attempts the landowner makes to stop them.
They have an unhealthy obsession with dogs that are bred and trained to be vicious and violent.
They expect the rest of us to accommodate and respect their "traditions" and "way of life", despite the rest of us finding it disgusting and inhumane.
They aggressively and violently target those who try to stop their illegal activities.
They ride horses in inappropriate places, causing inconvenience at best.
They wear tacky bright clothes and think it makes them look classy.
Half of them are inbred.
You rarely see them sober.
They speak a strange dialect.
They can't lay tarmac for st.

I'm struggling to tell the difference between fox-hunters and another group that goes around pissing everyone off whilst refusing to understand that they're pissing everyone off.

I used to work with a "hunter who occasionally hunted foxes", not a "fox hunter". He used a rifle and scope, and killed them with a single shot. He did it as a bit of a hobby on the side, farmer paid him a nominal amount and called him in periodically. Did it at night when they were active. No need for a wky red jacket and a fatty liver.

[donkmeister]

Gareth79 said:

Will have to watch later, but I've seen countless videos on Twitter of masked 'thugs' using violence and intimidation against the "hunt sabs" and seemingly getting away with it.

Here's an example from recently - the police were present watched it happen and let them go:

https://twitter.com/NhantsHuntsabs/status/17565913...

Here's another - a hunt thug intimidates a hunt sab "we know where you live" and then body checks another in front of police, and they are dealing with it like teachers and a playground scrap:

https://twitter.com/NhantsHuntsabs/status/17633038...

Ah, seems he was finally arrested and 'unmasked' in a video posted today! Can't mistake that voice:

https://twitter.com/NhantsHuntsabs/status/17649534...

Edited by Gareth79 on Tuesday 5th March 14:32

Bloody hell, that's someone who watched WWF as a kid and no-one ever thought to tell him "they're actors and it's not really a guide to gracious living".

Wonder if he'll get off with a stern warning, then be back doing the same thing a week later?

[Electro1980]

donkmeister said:

They trample across land they neither own nor have permission to, regardless of any attempts the landowner makes to stop them.

This is what will top them. Pissing off farmers and sooner or later they won’t have anywhere to mess about with their horses. They get away with the odd excursion in to land they should not be on, but it will become untenable.

It also used to be a very community thing, but more and more they ps off locals with behaviour like this and the utter disregard for anyone else, such as launching across roads with no regard for any other users, pissing in people’s hedges and generally acting incredibly entitled. They have gone from being seen as locals and part of the community to a bunch of wealthy incomers playing at county gent. The same with shooting parties. It’s all going to die a death from this soon.

[eharding]

vixen1700 said:

There are no words for the absolute hatred I have of these 'people' and their barbaric 'sport'.

Hopefully this will be the catalyst to stop this fully.

In before somebody defending it mentions the safety of their fking chickens.

Username raises suspicions you might not be entirely unbiased.

[vixen1700]

eharding said:

Username raises suspicions you might not be entirely unbiased.

Username came from my old 1700cc TVR Vixen, but yeah when it comes to this I'm extremely biased. I despise them.

[Randy Winkman]

Labour government soon .......................

[Oakey]

So.... are they travellers?

[BrettMRC]

Electro1980 said:

This is what will top them. Pissing off farmers and sooner or later they won’t have anywhere to mess about with their horses. They get away with the odd excursion in to land they should not be on, but it will become untenable.

It also used to be a very community thing, but more and more they ps off locals with behaviour like this and the utter disregard for anyone else, such as launching across roads with no regard for any other users, pissing in people’s hedges and generally acting incredibly entitled. They have gone from being seen as locals and part of the community to a bunch of wealthy incomers playing at county gent. The same with shooting parties. It’s all going to die a death from this soon.

Exactly this - I've never been a hunt fan, but the last 10 years it's literally turned into an excuse to flex some muscle and see what they can get away with.

They truck the horses in from miles and miles away anyway because the majority of them are no longer welcome in their own areas.

All this st about the hounds etc... it's been over 20 years since the law changed - so no hound alive should ever have been trained to go for a fox, quite the opposite.

Absolute bullst from top to bottom.

[Randy Winkman]

BrettMRC said:

Electro1980 said:

This is what will top them. Pissing off farmers and sooner or later they won’t have anywhere to mess about with their horses. They get away with the odd excursion in to land they should not be on, but it will become untenable.

It also used to be a very community thing, but more and more they ps off locals with behaviour like this and the utter disregard for anyone else, such as launching across roads with no regard for any other users, pissing in people’s hedges and generally acting incredibly entitled. They have gone from being seen as locals and part of the community to a bunch of wealthy incomers playing at county gent. The same with shooting parties. It’s all going to die a death from this soon.

Exactly this - I've never been a hunt fan, but the last 10 years it's literally turned into an excuse to flex some muscle and see what they can get away with.

They truck the horses in from miles and miles away anyway because the majority of them are no longer welcome in their own areas.

All this st about the hounds etc... it's been over 20 years since the law changed - so no hound alive should ever have been trained to go for a fox, quite the opposite.

Absolute bullst from top to bottom.

Good point about the dogs. They only exist because of hunting.

[OutInTheShed]

I declined to subscribe to the Telegraph because of their stance over foxhunting.

One thing people can do, is to wind up National Trust members for a ban on hunting on NT land.
It's been raised at the AGM before but with weak publicity and campaigning.

[TTwiggy]

Awful people. A town near me has a Boxing Day hunt parade, where all the good little serfs line up to compete in the forelock-tugging Olympics as their betters ride past.

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Are farmers allowed to shoot foxes on their own land if there is a threat to livestock?