Three female MPs given bodyguards
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It's not clear from the article whether this is specific to thugs making threats over the Israel/Gaza conflict or if it's something else or if it's something specific and unique to each individual.
Three female MPs given bodyguards
Whatever it is best wishes to those involved.
What on earth has gone wrong that being elected to represent your constituents ends up like this.
Three female MPs given bodyguards
Whatever it is best wishes to those involved.
What on earth has gone wrong that being elected to represent your constituents ends up like this.
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: It's not clear from the article whether this is specific to thugs making threats over the Israel/Gaza conflict or if it's something else or if it's something specific and unique to each individual.
Three female MPs given bodyguards
Whatever it is best wishes to those involved.
What on earth has gone wrong that being elected to represent your constituents ends up like this.
Hold on - we had a Prime Minister assassinated at Westminster in 1812. Is this really a case for ‘what on earth has gone wrong?’Three female MPs given bodyguards
Whatever it is best wishes to those involved.
What on earth has gone wrong that being elected to represent your constituents ends up like this.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: What on earth has gone wrong that being elected to represent your constituents ends up like this.
I will suggest that it's because Parliament and the authorities both metaphorically and literally took the knee to factions who aim to get their way by threats backed up by mob rule.Couple that with a general problem with atrocious behaviour, hands tied behind backs in dealing with situations which need a robust response. You've now got a worrying number of Met officers who are effectively refusing and avoiding S&S of knife suspects resulting in emboldened and untouchable attitudes.
Away from physical threats, people have to be so diffident and careful in making any comment which might incur wrath from some subset with a different view that effectively free speech is being curtailed. They've taken that to Parliament, MP's homes, anywhere or any subject is not safe. Safe spaces?
The solution Lindsay Hoyle sought was the wrong one having recognised that the safety of MPs, Parliament and a free country is under threat. His solution simply emboldens and encourages more intimidation. We need to fight it not take the sodding knee.
bobbo89 said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: What on earth has gone wrong that being elected to represent your constituents ends up like this.
Absolute mystery, don't think anyone knows TBH and I don't think anyone ever will. For now though I'm blaming Brexit and bigots.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: There are all manner of reasons that leap to mind from the nutter wing of the Palestine protests to the loons who threatened Rayner and Noakes everything in between.
Point is it needs dealing with.
Nobody wants another Cox or Amess to happen.
We could well be making the mistake that because we are living our bit of history we think we are past such things. We are not, human nature has not evolved all that far from huge disputes and unrest from many years ago but now we have tech that spreads the word of dissent much more effectively.Point is it needs dealing with.
Nobody wants another Cox or Amess to happen.
Plus we have easier travel, worldwide.
For all the wonderful things it does for us I suspect the ability of weirdos to send threats quickly and anonymously (though it's amazing how often they mess it up) online plays its part too.
Don't get me wrong I'm sure there's still a lot of physically written threats and filth turn up at MPs homes and offices but I would imagine the lions share is online abuse.
Don't get me wrong I'm sure there's still a lot of physically written threats and filth turn up at MPs homes and offices but I would imagine the lions share is online abuse.
Getragdogleg said:
Shame we don't know which ones.
If we did the reasons for protection would become clearer, but lets face it given current events there is a high likelihood they are Jewish or Jew supporting/adjacent and those who support Palestine that wish them harm.
I agree that it will be those opposed to Hamas that have been targeted, the 5th columnists we have are obviously presenting a growing threat and one that will only increase, we're being dragged into the gutter. If we did the reasons for protection would become clearer, but lets face it given current events there is a high likelihood they are Jewish or Jew supporting/adjacent and those who support Palestine that wish them harm.
There's all sorts of nutters out there.
Conservative MP Caroline Nokes is sent 'rape threat' and branded a 'Tory w***e' after accusing Boris Johnson's father Stanley of slapping her bottom at 2003 party conference
Labour's Angela Rayner 'no longer goes out' because of threats and was 'scared' by protest confrontation
Two examples.
Conservative MP Caroline Nokes is sent 'rape threat' and branded a 'Tory w***e' after accusing Boris Johnson's father Stanley of slapping her bottom at 2003 party conference
Labour's Angela Rayner 'no longer goes out' because of threats and was 'scared' by protest confrontation
Two examples.
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