Mum dies in A&E

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Square Leg

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14,854 posts

195 months

Friday 9th February
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How the bloody hell does this happen?

Well, I can see how it could happen as this is my local A&E and it is totally over run with patients.
She was clearly unwell enough for staff to check on her 3 times, so surely she should have been taken in straight away to be observed?

So bloody sad.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/mother-found-a-and-e-no...

Caddyshack

11,425 posts

212 months

Friday 9th February
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That is bad.

A case of "I told you I was ill"

Nemophilist

3,068 posts

187 months

Friday 9th February
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Terrible and not the first this has happened to

The regular strikes are also not improving matters


CooperS

4,532 posts

225 months

Friday 9th February
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I’ve had good care from my local hospital after an incident- however the intial stint for a scan and blood after being directed to go by my GP was 12 hours of waiting.

Some people looked in a really bad shape!

Terminator X

15,957 posts

210 months

Friday 9th February
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My recent experience of hospitals is that whilst they are all trying to do the right thing (heart in right place etc) the system is so fked up that it is almost impossible to give proper care to people that are seriously ill. Bit of a lottery unfortunately.

TX.

Scrump

22,783 posts

164 months

Friday 9th February
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Last year my eldest daughter went to Manchester A&E with a headache, blurred vision etc.
4 hour wait to be seen and was immediately admitted.
But no bed available so told to go and wait in a chair.
No chairs available so she sat on the floor, and fell asleep. It was another 20 hours before anyone came to find her as a bed was available.
We eventually received an apology from the hospital trust but unfortunately this seems far too common an occurrence.

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

50 months

Friday 9th February
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CEO deserves every penny of his £112,500 salary plus pension plus expenses plus other perks. Well done, sir.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/salarysurvey/t...

crankedup5

10,696 posts

41 months

Friday 9th February
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Just a couple of weeks ago I was in my local A&E, seven hour wait with doctors and nurses at their limits. Packed out, it transpired that patients needing a ward bed were having to wait in the A&E assessment cubicles, this then backed up into the A&E general waiting area. The couple opposite me had a 16 hour wait for a ward bed.
Whilst I was waiting a young woman sitting next to me, who was clearly in great pain,suddenly collapsed. She was carted off by medical staff for treatment.
Sadly this is not something out of the daily routine for patients or medical staff.

crankedup5

10,696 posts

41 months

Friday 9th February
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Terminator X said:
My recent experience of hospitals is that whilst they are all trying to do the right thing (heart in right place etc) the system is so fked up that it is almost impossible to give proper care to people that are seriously ill. Bit of a lottery unfortunately.

TX.
This, as from personal experience.

E63eeeeee...

4,431 posts

55 months

Friday 9th February
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Biggy Stardust said:
CEO deserves every penny of his £112,500 salary plus pension plus expenses plus other perks. Well done, sir.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/salarysurvey/t...
That's terrifyingly low for someone running a £234m annual budget for literally life and death services. There's no fking way I'd be running a hospital for that salary.

valiant

11,156 posts

166 months

Friday 9th February
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E63eeeeee... said:
Biggy Stardust said:
CEO deserves every penny of his £112,500 salary plus pension plus expenses plus other perks. Well done, sir.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/salarysurvey/t...
That's terrifyingly low for someone running a £234m annual budget for literally life and death services. There's no fking way I'd be running a hospital for that salary.
That does seem astonishingly low for running such a complex organisation with budget to match.

Maybe that’s part of the problem? Not paying enough to attract quality candidates?

Heathwood

2,734 posts

208 months

Friday 9th February
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E63eeeeee... said:
Biggy Stardust said:
CEO deserves every penny of his £112,500 salary plus pension plus expenses plus other perks. Well done, sir.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/salarysurvey/t...
That's terrifyingly low for someone running a £234m annual budget for literally life and death services. There's no fking way I'd be running a hospital for that salary.
I thought that. That’s a decent IT salary, not a Trust CEO with that sort of responsibility!

mikef

5,151 posts

257 months

Friday 9th February
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Biggy Stardust said:
CEO deserves every penny of his £112,500 salary plus pension plus expenses plus other perks. Well done, sir.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/salarysurvey/t...
Oh sod off, that’s way less than a contract computer programmer is getting

Square Leg

Original Poster:

14,854 posts

195 months

Friday 9th February
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Different chap now, and slightly larger budget…
2022 and he’s still there.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamsh...

eldar

22,502 posts

202 months

Friday 9th February
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mikef said:
Biggy Stardust said:
CEO deserves every penny of his £112,500 salary plus pension plus expenses plus other perks. Well done, sir.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/salarysurvey/t...
Oh sod off, that’s way less than a contract computer programmer is getting
True, if government contractsmile

E63eeeeee...

4,431 posts

55 months

Friday 9th February
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Square Leg said:
Different chap now, and slightly larger budget…
2022 and he’s still there.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamsh...
I think that's the other guy's boss, covering both hospitals in the trust.

Southerner

1,705 posts

58 months

Friday 9th February
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Regardless of how high the CEO’s salary might be they won’t be turning water into wine. The NHS is dying on it’s arse across the board, there is f*ck all money and the terminal decline is glaringly obvious from all angles. It has been for years, but as is so often the case these days the endless reporting of it all just means that we accept it as normal rather than the absolute f*ing disgrace that it actually is.

An A&E department that has too few beds, too few staff and is catering for an increasing population in an expanding area - as many of them are, owing to them closing as many as they can get away with - is never going to cope, no matter how talented or otherwise the bloke in charge might be.

anonymous-user

60 months

Friday 9th February
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Heathwood said:
E63eeeeee... said:
Biggy Stardust said:
CEO deserves every penny of his £112,500 salary plus pension plus expenses plus other perks. Well done, sir.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/salarysurvey/t...
That's terrifyingly low for someone running a £234m annual budget for literally life and death services. There's no fking way I'd be running a hospital for that salary.
I thought that. That’s a decent IT salary, not a Trust CEO with that sort of responsibility!
No it's not, it's people being greedy. My CEO has an annual budget of over £1BN per year yet draws a salary of £120k. He's quite happy with his job. He's more interested in the work and staff rather than trying to milk everything in sight.

gangzoom

6,688 posts

221 months

Friday 9th February
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E63eeeeee... said:
That's terrifyingly low for someone running a £234m annual budget for literally life and death services. There's no fking way I'd be running a hospital for that salary.
That website is showing data from 2003, the pay for executive board members of any NHS trust is published in the trusts annual report.

mcdjl

5,483 posts

201 months

Friday 9th February
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I spent a night in that ward with my now wife as we were coming out of COVID. When she passed out got the first time(blood loss) I was allowed on the ward after being kicked out of the waiting room, she was too young to need a carer in the view if the security guard. In the time we spent there the staff were over run. There were however more police than doctors who were clearly bored.
Having since didn't most of a week walking past the ward it was a rare occasion that there wasn't a row of bed trolleys in the corridors near by. The issue was usually that a&e didn't have any where to send patients on to.