Vegan restaurant going to serve meat

Vegan restaurant going to serve meat

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s1962a

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5,719 posts

169 months

Thursday 1st February
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-6...

Due to cost of living crisis apparently.

I've seen shops / restaurants open up that try to be more ethical, farm based wholesome food etc and they don't up lasting long, as even though people want to do the right thing, the economics of mass production and food that is not as healthy as it should be just doesn't add up and they don't shop there that often. It's like the people who complain about the small shops in their town closing down, when they don't even frequent them that often.

Anyway, hope the restaurant does well - the owner seems to be pragmatic enough.

OutInTheShed

9,389 posts

33 months

Thursday 1st February
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We have vegetarian friends, I've been to a few vegetarian places with tem, and also some places which do both great vegetarian food and great meat-containing food.
None of us would suggest going to a vegan place.

Yet we've had some great meals which are vegan or could be made vegan without losing very much.

Post covid, I'm finding that quite few people who care about food, including meat eaters who care about quality. as well as people with dietary needs and opinions, simply don't eat out very much.

Lotobear

7,153 posts

135 months

Thursday 1st February
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Is it not just the case that veganism is a minority interest, mostly of the middle classes and impressionable pre teens, and most folk just like to eat a bit of meat?


dudleybloke

20,479 posts

193 months

Thursday 1st February
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Lotobear said:
Is it not just the case that veganism is a minority interest, mostly of the middle classes and impressionable pre teens, and most folk just like to eat a bit of meat?
Yes, because of social bubbles they think that there is a lot more vegans than there are.

king arthur

6,989 posts

268 months

Thursday 1st February
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The issue with a vegan restaurant is, I would think, that it's very very seldom that you would get two or more people all going out for a meal together who are all vegan.

JuanCarlosFandango

8,303 posts

78 months

Thursday 1st February
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king arthur said:
The issue with a vegan restaurant is, I would think, that it's very very seldom that you would get two or more people all going out for a meal together who are all vegan.
Who would they tell?

vikingaero

11,237 posts

176 months

Thursday 1st February
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As an illustration when I take The Vikingettes back to Uni after a holiday break we bulk buy them food.

Vikingette1's vegetableist shop costs around £130
Vikingette2's mixed shop costs £100

When I look at the prices of say meat sausages vs. plant sausages, the plant based ones are at least 1/3rd more with less choice.

98elise

28,257 posts

168 months

Thursday 1st February
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king arthur said:
The issue with a vegan restaurant is, I would think, that it's very very seldom that you would get two or more people all going out for a meal together who are all vegan.
This.

It's hard enough to run a successful restaurant, and limiting your customer base is not good business.

I only know a few vegetarians (let alone vegans) and they are married to meat eaters. They would only go to a restaurant that serves both.


gazza285

10,189 posts

215 months

Thursday 1st February
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king arthur said:
The issue with a vegan restaurant is, I would think, that it's very very seldom that you would get two or more people all going out for a meal together who are all vegan.
It is possible for non vegans to eat vegan food.

vikingaero

11,237 posts

176 months

Thursday 1st February
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gazza285 said:
king arthur said:
The issue with a vegan restaurant is, I would think, that it's very very seldom that you would get two or more people all going out for a meal together who are all vegan.
It is possible for non vegans to eat vegan food.
Hell NO!

The whole point of going out to eat is to have something that you might not have at home. Mrs V. and the Vikingettes don't eat Steak/Beef and we rarely have it at home, so going out is my chance to eat a chunk of meat! biggrin

king arthur

6,989 posts

268 months

Thursday 1st February
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gazza285 said:
It is possible for non vegans to eat vegan food.
Possible but who goes out for a meal they don't really want to have?

otolith

59,129 posts

211 months

Thursday 1st February
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gazza285 said:
king arthur said:
The issue with a vegan restaurant is, I would think, that it's very very seldom that you would get two or more people all going out for a meal together who are all vegan.
It is possible for non vegans to eat vegan food.
It is possible. But they need to want to, which perhaps many don't.

Gecko1978

10,466 posts

164 months

Thursday 1st February
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The economics of catering to a niche are tight its the same for all products. So you either charge a huge premium or you go broke.

Ian Geary

4,734 posts

199 months

Thursday 1st February
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vikingaero said:
As an illustration when I take The Vikingettes back to Uni after a holiday break we bulk buy them food.

Vikingette1's vegetableist shop costs around £130
Vikingette2's mixed shop costs £100

When I look at the prices of say meat sausages vs. plant sausages, the plant based ones are at least 1/3rd more with less choice.
The good thing with bulk buying vegan food is it lasts longer....

.... because no-one wants to eat it!


(Joke stolen)

Hoofy

77,497 posts

289 months

Thursday 1st February
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Shame really. I do get the values and benefits (health, environment) of going vegan. (I'm not a vegan before you ask, and every time I eat a bacon sandwich I'm reminded of what I'd be missing... and every time I eat a fake meat product I'm reminded of what disappointment tastes like.)

98elise

28,257 posts

168 months

Thursday 1st February
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gazza285 said:
king arthur said:
The issue with a vegan restaurant is, I would think, that it's very very seldom that you would get two or more people all going out for a meal together who are all vegan.
It is possible for non vegans to eat vegan food.
Going to a restaurant normally a treat. Most non vegans wouldn't choose a vegan option, therefore wouldn't choose a vegan restaurant when they have a choice.

Having food that it's possible to eat isn't a great sales pitch.

TikTak

1,828 posts

26 months

Thursday 1st February
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Ohh waaah

Why not have a place with tables and chairs, maybe food on a list, maybe you pick what you like from it and they make it for you. Maybe thats a veggie thing or maybe its a massive steak. You decide!

Everyone gets something they wanted and we all get on with our lives?

Edited by TikTak on Thursday 1st February 14:44

oyster

12,864 posts

255 months

Thursday 1st February
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vikingaero said:
As an illustration when I take The Vikingettes back to Uni after a holiday break we bulk buy them food.

Vikingette1's vegetableist shop costs around £130
Vikingette2's mixed shop costs £100

When I look at the prices of say meat sausages vs. plant sausages, the plant based ones are at least 1/3rd more with less choice.
That's because you're buying low quality meat.

Try reasonable quality meat and the price will be way in excess of the vegetarian diet.


As a family, we eat one or two vegan/vegetarian dishes a week - it keeps the food bill down.

eldar

22,783 posts

203 months

Thursday 1st February
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gazza285 said:
king arthur said:
The issue with a vegan restaurant is, I would think, that it's very very seldom that you would get two or more people all going out for a meal together who are all vegan.
It is possible for non vegans to eat vegan food.
Of course it is. But why. Adverts for vegan butter are appearing frequently at the moment. Tastes like the cheap margarine it actually is, but 5 times the price.

Ean218

2,004 posts

257 months

Thursday 1st February
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It is possible for vegans to eat non vegan food. It won't kill them and may in fact improve their diet.