finding your stolen items for sale on Ebay

finding your stolen items for sale on Ebay

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Oliver Hardy

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3,001 posts

81 months

Saturday 13th January
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui5E8SlGbU4

Not sure where to put this, but it is quire an interesting video about someone who found their stolen items on Ebay.

200bhp

5,682 posts

226 months

Saturday 13th January
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10+ years ago my Dad worked for a property developer in Bucks/Herts. They pushed to get doors, windows and appliances into a block of apartments in Bicester before the Christmas break, locking up on Christmas eve with everything installed in time.

Over the break someone broke into the block and stole all the appliances.

Police report was made etc. and they heard nothing.

Then a week or two later, my Dad thought he'd look on eBay where he found the same model appliances for sale and the seller had included a photo showing the label on the back of many of the appliances to indicate the model number to potential buyers - Unfortunately for them, the label also included the serial numbers which had been recorded prior to installation.

Information was shared to the police who recovered all but a few of the appliances which hadn't yet been sold.

Road2Ruin

5,492 posts

223 months

Saturday 13th January
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200bhp said:
10+ years ago my Dad worked for a property developer in Bucks/Herts. They pushed to get doors, windows and appliances into a block of apartments in Bicester before the Christmas break, locking up on Christmas eve with everything installed in time.

Over the break someone broke into the block and stole all the appliances.

Police report was made etc. and they heard nothing.

Then a week or two later, my Dad thought he'd look on eBay where he found the same model appliances for sale and the seller had included a photo showing the label on the back of many of the appliances to indicate the model number to potential buyers - Unfortunately for them, the label also included the serial numbers which had been recorded prior to installation.

Information was shared to the police who recovered all but a few of the appliances which hadn't yet been sold.
Even the 'sold' items, if they could be located, would be recoverable. A stolen item isn't less so, when it's been sold on.

dave123456

2,831 posts

154 months

Saturday 13th January
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Road2Ruin said:
200bhp said:
10+ years ago my Dad worked for a property developer in Bucks/Herts. They pushed to get doors, windows and appliances into a block of apartments in Bicester before the Christmas break, locking up on Christmas eve with everything installed in time.

Over the break someone broke into the block and stole all the appliances.

Police report was made etc. and they heard nothing.

Then a week or two later, my Dad thought he'd look on eBay where he found the same model appliances for sale and the seller had included a photo showing the label on the back of many of the appliances to indicate the model number to potential buyers - Unfortunately for them, the label also included the serial numbers which had been recorded prior to installation.

Information was shared to the police who recovered all but a few of the appliances which hadn't yet been sold.
Even the 'sold' items, if they could be located, would be recoverable. A stolen item isn't less so, when it's been sold on.
That would require the police to actually find them tho.

fridaypassion

9,399 posts

235 months

Saturday 13th January
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My dad a few years ago had a bike nicked out of the garage and the idiots had it on eBay it was only in the next town. This was a few years back now and it might seem crazy today but get this. He called the police and told them where the bike was....

And they went out and got the bike and arrested the seller!

This was back in the day when it was all fields of course.

heisthegaffer

3,649 posts

205 months

Saturday 13th January
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fridaypassion said:
My dad a few years ago had a bike nicked out of the garage and the idiots had it on eBay it was only in the next town. This was a few years back now and it might seem crazy today but get this. He called the police and told them where the bike was....

And they went out and got the bike and arrested the seller!

This was back in the day when it was all fields of course.
My brother forgot to lock his bike up at the station and it got nicked, he then found on ebay and got it back.

Road2Ruin

5,492 posts

223 months

Saturday 13th January
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dave123456 said:
Road2Ruin said:
200bhp said:
10+ years ago my Dad worked for a property developer in Bucks/Herts. They pushed to get doors, windows and appliances into a block of apartments in Bicester before the Christmas break, locking up on Christmas eve with everything installed in time.

Over the break someone broke into the block and stole all the appliances.

Police report was made etc. and they heard nothing.

Then a week or two later, my Dad thought he'd look on eBay where he found the same model appliances for sale and the seller had included a photo showing the label on the back of many of the appliances to indicate the model number to potential buyers - Unfortunately for them, the label also included the serial numbers which had been recorded prior to installation.

Information was shared to the police who recovered all but a few of the appliances which hadn't yet been sold.
Even the 'sold' items, if they could be located, would be recoverable. A stolen item isn't less so, when it's been sold on.
That would require the police to actually find them tho.
Like I said. However, you would expect Ebay to keep records.

Oliver Hardy

Original Poster:

3,001 posts

81 months

Sunday 14th January
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Road2Ruin said:
dave123456 said:
Road2Ruin said:
200bhp said:
10+ years ago my Dad worked for a property developer in Bucks/Herts. They pushed to get doors, windows and appliances into a block of apartments in Bicester before the Christmas break, locking up on Christmas eve with everything installed in time.

Over the break someone broke into the block and stole all the appliances.

Police report was made etc. and they heard nothing.

Then a week or two later, my Dad thought he'd look on eBay where he found the same model appliances for sale and the seller had included a photo showing the label on the back of many of the appliances to indicate the model number to potential buyers - Unfortunately for them, the label also included the serial numbers which had been recorded prior to installation.

Information was shared to the police who recovered all but a few of the appliances which hadn't yet been sold.
Even the 'sold' items, if they could be located, would be recoverable. A stolen item isn't less so, when it's been sold on.
That would require the police to actually find them tho.
Like I said. However, you would expect Ebay to keep records.
You would expect Cash Converters to check if any other items were being sold by the same people without the need to fill out forms.

MrJuice

3,671 posts

163 months

Sunday 14th January
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Not quite the same but my brother lost his checked in luggage on a flight to Germany about 18y ago. In it was thousands of pounds of clothes, including a £1500 jacket. At the time £1500 was a lot for a jacket

He found his jacket on eBay just the other month and bought it. It was a very distinctive Nicole Fahri sheepskin jacket. He's lanky with long arms and the jacket would only fit someone with his build

He's happy to have it back

Didn't find any other the other bits but this was the most important

Sporky

7,306 posts

71 months

Sunday 14th January
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MrJuice said:
At the time £1500 was a lot for a jacket
If it helps, £1500 is still a lot for a jacket.

Wacky Racer

38,998 posts

254 months

Sunday 14th January
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heisthegaffer said:
My brother forgot to lock his bike up at the station and it got nicked, he then found on ebay and got it back.
My dad went to the Manchester City v Stoke City game at Maine Road in 1934 which (even now) still holds the record for the highest attendance of any game outside Wembley in England, 84,569.

He told me he left his bike (unlocked) leaning against a lamp post outside the ground, and it was there when he got back.

munroman

1,882 posts

191 months

Sunday 14th January
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Wacky Racer said:
heisthegaffer said:
My brother forgot to lock his bike up at the station and it got nicked, he then found on ebay and got it back.
My dad went to the Manchester City v Stoke City game at Maine Road in 1934 which (even now) still holds the record for the highest attendance of any game outside Wembley in England, 84,569.

He told me he left his bike (unlocked) leaning against a lamp post outside the ground, and it was there when he got back.
I used to have a crappy bike that nobody would steal!

Jim on the hill

5,077 posts

197 months

Sunday 14th January
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Sporky said:
MrJuice said:
At the time £1500 was a lot for a jacket
If it helps, £1500 is still a lot for a jacket.
biglaugh

eharding

14,148 posts

291 months

Sunday 14th January
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MrJuice said:
Not quite the same but my brother lost his checked in luggage on a flight to Germany about 18y ago. In it was thousands of pounds of clothes, including a £1500 jacket. At the time £1500 was a lot for a jacket

He found his jacket on eBay just the other month and bought it. It was a very distinctive Nicole Fahri sheepskin jacket. He's lanky with long arms and the jacket would only fit someone with his build

He's happy to have it back

Didn't find any other the other bits but this was the most important
I'm curious - obviously 18 years is a long time for be separated from a jacket, but after how long a period between having your property stolen, the insurance paying out, and then you re-purchasing your original (stolen) item - presumably at a much reduced price (because stolen) - does it stop being insurance fraud, assuming you don't tell the insurers?

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

51 months

Sunday 14th January
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MrJuice said:
At the time £1500 was a lot for a jacket
"I lost $750 million," Arthur says. "Of course, that was when $750 million was a lot of money."

Dudley Moore, "Arthur 2"

lost in espace

6,299 posts

214 months

Sunday 14th January
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eharding said:
I'm curious - obviously 18 years is a long time for be separated from a jacket, but after how long a period between having your property stolen, the insurance paying out, and then you re-purchasing your original (stolen) item - presumably at a much reduced price (because stolen) - does it stop being insurance fraud, assuming you don't tell the insurers?
All I know is that if i tried on an 18 year old jacket, it wouldn't zip up anymore!

Oliver Hardy

Original Poster:

3,001 posts

81 months

Sunday 14th January
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eharding said:
I'm curious - obviously 18 years is a long time for be separated from a jacket, but after how long a period between having your property stolen, the insurance paying out, and then you re-purchasing your original (stolen) item - presumably at a much reduced price (because stolen) - does it stop being insurance fraud, assuming you don't tell the insurers?
It wasn't stolen, it was lopst luggage. told it happens all the time although the only time my luggage was lost, I went to customer service desk to report it and they told me it was in Germany rather then Bulgeria where I was.

Curious how much did you pay for it? Although it might not be the same hacket?

zarjaz1991

3,729 posts

130 months

Sunday 14th January
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dave123456 said:
That would require the police to actually find them tho.
It would also require the police to actually give a damn. Which they don’t.

eharding

14,148 posts

291 months

Sunday 14th January
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Oliver Hardy said:
eharding said:
I'm curious - obviously 18 years is a long time for be separated from a jacket, but after how long a period between having your property stolen, the insurance paying out, and then you re-purchasing your original (stolen) item - presumably at a much reduced price (because stolen) - does it stop being insurance fraud, assuming you don't tell the insurers?
It wasn't stolen, it was lopst luggage. told it happens all the time although the only time my luggage was lost, I went to customer service desk to report it and they told me it was in Germany rather then Bulgeria where I was.

Curious how much did you pay for it? Although it might not be the same hacket?
Stolen or lost, the question was relating to the scenario where the jacket was went missing, insurance was paid, and then some time later *exactly* that item was purchased by the insured (and recompensed) individual for a smaller amount than the insured sum, and the insurance company was not informed. If the timespan was a week, you'd be saying chinney-reckon something's fishy, after 18 years probably not, but would the insured individual still strictly speaking have a duty to inform their insurers (assuming they were still in business), or does the insurance trade in general have a period after which they wouldn't pursue the matter if it came to their attention?



heisthegaffer

3,649 posts

205 months

Sunday 14th January
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Wacky Racer said:
heisthegaffer said:
My brother forgot to lock his bike up at the station and it got nicked, he then found on ebay and got it back.
My dad went to the Manchester City v Stoke City game at Maine Road in 1934 which (even now) still holds the record for the highest attendance of any game outside Wembley in England, 84,569.

He told me he left his bike (unlocked) leaning against a lamp post outside the ground, and it was there when he got back.
It might have something to do with the bike being at Hatfield Station!