LGBT+ housing schemes

[dirky dirk]

Kind of divisive really

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/great...

[Biggy Stardust]

Discrimination based on sexual orientation?

If I want to buy one & can't because I'm straight* then surely that's illegal discrimination?

(*Mostly straight since public school).

[Rufus Stone]

I wonder how people are expected to prove their eligibility.

[Blue Oval84]

The article literally says that it's open to non-LGBT+ people as well, so if you're over 55 and you really, really want to live in an LGBT+ focussed community you can do

[C5_Steve]

It's one part of a larger development and rather than being exclusionary it's been designed working with major LGBTQ+ organisations in the local area. Will be like assisted living for the elderly from the sounds of it having had a read.

It clearly says they "expect the majority" to be from the local LGBTQ+ community, which would make sense as it's been designed for that purpose and in conjunction with those groups who will promote it. If you desperately wanted to live there, you could.

Not being from that community I've no idea of the issues but in regards to the marketing it's no different to a development being marketed at "young professionals" is it really? It's been designed with a demographic in mind. Nothing stopping anyone else living there.

[chrispmartha]

Biggy Stardust said:

Discrimination based on sexual orientation?

If I want to buy one & can't because I'm straight* then surely that's illegal discrimination?

(*Mostly straight since public school).

Where does it say a straight person can’t buy one?

It’s also only for over 55s, you not bothered about age discrimination? ;-)

[Electro1980]

You could just read the article before getting angry:

“To live in this building, residents will need to be aged 55 years or over, and the majority of residents will be members of the LGBTQ+ community from Manchester. …‘the aim is to provide an open and inclusive, physical and psychological place of safety for the older LGBTQ+ community’… Russell Road will provide high-quality, affordable, and inclusive homes for older people who identify as LGBT+ or allies, as well as shared ownership opportunities for local residents”

So, no, you won’t have to prove anything. There won’t be any requirement. They will be marketed to people in the Manchester LGBTQ+ community, that’s all.

[chrispmartha]

Rufus Stone said:

I wonder how people are expected to prove their eligibility.

The only eligibility criteria is age.

[Bill]

Blue Oval84 said:

The article literally says that it's open to non-LGBT+ people as well, so if you're over 55 and you really, really want to live in an LGBT+ focussed community you can do

Frothers gonna froth...

[bitchstewie]

There was a very good interview on LBC on this with Peter Tatchell.

Appreciate he doesn't speak for all LGBT+ people but he made a lot of sense on why this is a sensible and welcome thing to the people who will be using it.

I don't think it's published on the website unfortunately.

[Rufus Stone]

chrispmartha said:

The only eligibility criteria is age.

So it's not an LGBT community? What's the media report about then?

[chrispmartha]

Rufus Stone said:

chrispmartha said:

The only eligibility criteria is age.

So it's not an LGBT community? What's the media report about then?

It will be marketed to the over 55s LGBTQ+ community.

[JQ]

Stuff like this has been going on for years, I had a couple of Great Aunts who lived in Methodist care homes and a great Uncle who lived lived in care home for veterans. They liked being with people of similar background, which sounds perfectly sensible.

[Rufus Stone]

chrispmartha said:

It will be marketed to the over 55s LGBTQ+ community.

So what. Residents won't need to be LGBTetc to live there though.

Is there a need for this, are they excluded from other residential communities?

[Biggy Stardust]

Replace "LGBT" with "white" & see whether it still sounds acceptable. It's a very simple but very effective test.

[bitchstewie]

Rufus Stone said:

So what. Residents won't need to be LGBTetc to live there though.

Is there a need for this, are they excluded from other residential communities?

If you're genuinely interested from memory some of the reasons Tatchell mentioned are getting away from the violence and prejudice that some LGBT+ people still face which is easier said than done if it's coming from your next door neighbour plus the loneliness and isolation that some older LGBT+ people often feel for example after a partner dies or for some there's still a bit of awkwardness about being LGBT+.

[chrispmartha]

Rufus Stone said:

chrispmartha said:

It will be marketed to the over 55s LGBTQ+ community.

So what. Residents won't need to be LGBTetc to live there though.

Is there a need for this, are they excluded from other residential communities?

Maybe ask some over 55s from the LGBTQ+ community.

My question would be why would it bother you?

[W12GT]

Bill said:

Blue Oval84 said:

The article literally says that it's open to non-LGBT+ people as well, so if you're over 55 and you really, really want to live in an LGBT+ focussed community you can do

Frothers gonna froth...

I can assure you that women outside of the LGBT+ community can also froth. It’s not exclusive….

[Rufus Stone]

chrispmartha said:

Maybe ask some over 55s from the LGBTQ+ community.

My question would be why would it bother you?

"To live in this building, residents will need to be aged 55 years or over, and the majority of residents will be members of the LGBTQ+ community from Manchester."

Back to my original comment. How are they going to ensure the majority are LGBT? What evidence would be required I wonder?

[chrispmartha]

Rufus Stone said:

chrispmartha said:

Maybe ask some over 55s from the LGBTQ+ community.

My question would be why would it bother you?

"To live in this building, residents will need to be aged 55 years or over, and the majority of residents will be members of the LGBTQ+ community from Manchester."

Back to my original comment. How are they going to ensure the majority are LGBT? What evidence would be required I wonder?

Where does it says you need evidence?

It also say allies of LGBTQ+

It will be marketed to that community