Alaska Airlines grounds Boeing 737 Max 9 planes…
Discussion
eldar said:
It's use as an emergency exit depends on configuration? So a panel filled either by exit or window section?
Apparently having an emergency exit in that location is a customer option. In this case, Alaska opted not to have a functioning (i.e. openable) exit in that location. However, this does not mean that the hole for the emergency exit is replaced by a standard window. A non opening panel (which contains a window) is inserted and fixed into the space where the emergency exit would have been.It looks like it is the entire panel which has blown out - which indicates that it either wasn't fitted properly at the factory or there is a basic design flaw in the panel design.
Not a religious sort, but you do have to wonder if the big man upstairs has a fundamental issue with the 737 Max!
Surely it’s almost inevitable that this will result in global checks on all similarly configured examples having to be carried out, unless it’s found to have been some sort of maintenance issue - seems unlikely given that it’s a fixed panel with presumably no reason for it to ever be removed or messed about with?
Surely it’s almost inevitable that this will result in global checks on all similarly configured examples having to be carried out, unless it’s found to have been some sort of maintenance issue - seems unlikely given that it’s a fixed panel with presumably no reason for it to ever be removed or messed about with?
Eric Mc said:
It looks like it is the entire panel which has blown out - which indicates that it either wasn't fitted properly at the factory or there is a basic design flaw in the panel design.
All the more worrying that the plane was virtually brand new, having only been delivered in 2023 
Thought this was the same make and model of plane as depicted in Final Destination movie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Destination_(f...
It's not.
It's not.
Just to indicate how desperate Boeing are they now want some safety rule exemptions to get the MAX 7 delivered to customers. It seems if the pilot leaves the engine nacelle de-ice on for more than five minutes tthere's a risk of it detaching & causing damage to the cabin, passengers, wings & tail. There's no alarm or warning - the pilots just need to remember to turn it off.
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aeros...
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aeros...
Mr Pointy said:
Just to indicate how desperate Boeing are they now want some safety rule exemptions to get the MAX 7 delivered to customers. It seems if the pilot leaves the engine nacelle de-ice on for more than five minutes tthere's a risk of it detaching & causing damage to the cabin, passengers, wings & tail. There's no alarm or warning - the pilots just need to remember to turn it off.
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aeros...
Presumably that has the added advantage that when/if a disaster occurs, it will be the pilot's fault. After all, he/she should have remembered.https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aeros...
Mr Pointy said:
Just to indicate how desperate Boeing are they now want some safety rule exemptions to get the MAX 7 delivered to customers. It seems if the pilot leaves the engine nacelle de-ice on for more than five minutes tthere's a risk of it detaching & causing damage to the cabin, passengers, wings & tail. There's no alarm or warning - the pilots just need to remember to turn it off.
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aeros...
Hopefully the FAA response will be along the lines of "Er, no. You've got a problem - fix it."https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aeros...
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Just watching this on the news. Amazing to see the passengers sitting next to it, seemingly calm.
I would be shi**ing myself.
Glad they got the plane down safely.
Happened at 16,000 ft - imagine if sudden depressurisation had happened at 30,000 I would be shi**ing myself.
Glad they got the plane down safely.
Some lucky people on that plane . . .
G-wiz said:
Thought this was the same make and model of plane as depicted in Final Destination movie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Destination_(f...
It's not.
The 737 Max didn't exist at the time that movie was made.It's not.
CambsBill said:
Mr Pointy said:
Just to indicate how desperate Boeing are they now want some safety rule exemptions to get the MAX 7 delivered to customers. It seems if the pilot leaves the engine nacelle de-ice on for more than five minutes tthere's a risk of it detaching & causing damage to the cabin, passengers, wings & tail. There's no alarm or warning - the pilots just need to remember to turn it off.
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aeros...
Hopefully the FAA response will be along the lines of "Er, no. You've got a problem - fix it."https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aeros...
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