Knighthood for Gerald Ronson
Discussion
ClaphamGT3 said:
Good to see that both his charitable work has been recognised and that we, as a society, can recognise when a former offender has paid their debt to society and wipe the slate clean
"we, as a society" don't actually have much of a say with nonsense like this. There are folk that will help you, for a fee. https://wearebayleaf.com/honours/how-to-get-a-knig...
ClaphamGT3 said:
Good to see that both his charitable work has been recognised and that we, as a society, can recognise when a former offender has paid their debt to society and wipe the slate clean
A small point but he hasn’t repaid his debt to society, he’s been punished. He’ll have repaid his debt when all those who lost money are repaid.Derek Smith said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
Good to see that both his charitable work has been recognised and that we, as a society, can recognise when a former offender has paid their debt to society and wipe the slate clean
A small point but he hasn’t repaid his debt to society, he’s been punished. He’ll have repaid his debt when all those who lost money are repaid.Wikipedia, that great source of stuff not to be believed states, "After the takeover the Guinness plc share price increased and settled to about three times its value before the takeover.
Leithen said:
Derek Smith said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
Good to see that both his charitable work has been recognised and that we, as a society, can recognise when a former offender has paid their debt to society and wipe the slate clean
A small point but he hasn’t repaid his debt to society, he’s been punished. He’ll have repaid his debt when all those who lost money are repaid.Wikipedia, that great source of stuff not to be believed states, "After the takeover the Guinness plc share price increased and settled to about three times its value before the takeover.
President Merkin said:
I've made it to 53 & never been to jail. Can I have one? Honours are anachronistic, forelock tugging, establishment reinforcing bulls
t. Society woud be better without them.
This 100%.t. Society woud be better without them.How do the Brexiteers square the giving of honours to unelected political donors?
I’m certain that one of their big moans about the EU was about the unelected commission. Surely the HOL is actually worse. You can get in by bribing our politicians and you then have a direct say on our laws?
We make resolutions on New Years Eve, redeem ourselves and live happily ever after. Why we can’t just as easily stop biting our nails on, say, the 24th of July is unexplained. There must be a special force associated with the First of January. This being so we are abolishing the Honours List, this First of January.
These wishes, desirous of fulfilment are called ‘resolutions’. Since
‘Resolution’ has proved to too strong a word, I call them ‘vague plans, if they are no trouble’. No-one would want a smoke detector connected to a belt of Hand Grenades to stop smoking. My only resolution is a campaign, of which this is the first powerful missive. It is to abolish the New Year’s Honours List and all honours old and new.
They are a quango of much decorated Civil Servants who have a small suite of fourteen offices just off Whitehall.
The undignified scattering of crumbs from our top table (The top table is the Palace, The King, the Queen and Children, and so on down in order of
Letters after…..’) I bet more people are put off good works by the fear of being singled out as a groveler than are encouraged by letters after their name and a parchment scroll. I don’t know the detail, but a scroll seems likely if someone wanted proof positive that you are not just pretending to be an O.B.E. Photocopies not accepted.
I would regard Honours in a better light if they were all the same but they are as divisive as ranks in the armed forces. Your C.B.E is light years ahead of your M.B.E and not just alphabetically. Best thing is to make everyone, babies included, into Earls tonight. The present rank system involves kneeling, sable robes, funny names, hats from Crackers etc. It is very easy to offend with things as they are but when the rat-catcher is ‘Lord Warfarin of Stockport,’ we’ll be OK.
The funny names are good for a laugh, we’ll keep those. There’s lady ‘Hornchurch and Penge’ or ‘Lord Icky of Toko Ri’. Lets see why some honours are given… I note a certain Mr Cragg has got the CBE, he is a ‘happening’ sculptor in rubbish he has found. He converts it from rubbish indiscriminately strewn, to rubbish in enigmatic wooden heaps. So when I knock down the old greenhouse I’ll make a heap and be a CBE. I could aim higher, I see a trainer of Butlers once got an MBE. The reason for that is clear, the honoured need as many lick-spittles as they can get so train them up by the thousands. The subservience must be continued. A toastmaster or two wouldn’t go amiss either .
Three workers at Sandringham are honoured, their forelocks are unnaturally long from excess tugging, never mind, they’ve got the gong, and can treasure it as they are moved out of their tied house when they retire. No doubt Balmoral and Windsor and the Royal prefab on Canvey Island are similarly honoured by employees gaining OM’s . At Buck House the big boys wait with bated breath, ever so bated. They need not have worried. Winging down came the knighthoods for the clerk in ordinary who still has to write the milkman a note on vellum, sealed with red sealing wax.
There is an important honour bestowed every year to the ‘Precedence of Honours Stick’ He has a touching stiff, if two honoured people meet and don’t know where they stand, POHS as he is called writes on the jacket of one of them with the end of the stick which has a carved ivory hand holding a stick of white chalk. He has to put a cross on each lapel. He is what is called the under honour and may do nothing until POHS lets him go. The over honour is touched with the other end of the stick which is a carved monkey with articulated fingers on one hand, it pinches his right ear lobe and they may then go their ways. Sometimes when POHS can’t be found, they have to stand there for hours till a stand-in arrives. There is always a spare at Osborne.
If the same proportion of the general population were honoured are as blessed as the employees in Royal palaces and houses, we would have to mint more medals than pound coins. About a quarter of any crown would be OBE’s upwards. Six million of us. Good idea, that would make it as cheap as Kellogg's corn flake buttons.
Some explanation is perhaps necessary. OBE means ‘ Order of the attacking and occupying Foreign Countries medal and the CBE is Companion of shooting natives only armed with sticks. MBE is no right to be there in the first place and it doesn’t exist anymore because we changed it’s name to Victorialand.
These wishes, desirous of fulfilment are called ‘resolutions’. Since
‘Resolution’ has proved to too strong a word, I call them ‘vague plans, if they are no trouble’. No-one would want a smoke detector connected to a belt of Hand Grenades to stop smoking. My only resolution is a campaign, of which this is the first powerful missive. It is to abolish the New Year’s Honours List and all honours old and new.
They are a quango of much decorated Civil Servants who have a small suite of fourteen offices just off Whitehall.
The undignified scattering of crumbs from our top table (The top table is the Palace, The King, the Queen and Children, and so on down in order of
Letters after…..’) I bet more people are put off good works by the fear of being singled out as a groveler than are encouraged by letters after their name and a parchment scroll. I don’t know the detail, but a scroll seems likely if someone wanted proof positive that you are not just pretending to be an O.B.E. Photocopies not accepted.
I would regard Honours in a better light if they were all the same but they are as divisive as ranks in the armed forces. Your C.B.E is light years ahead of your M.B.E and not just alphabetically. Best thing is to make everyone, babies included, into Earls tonight. The present rank system involves kneeling, sable robes, funny names, hats from Crackers etc. It is very easy to offend with things as they are but when the rat-catcher is ‘Lord Warfarin of Stockport,’ we’ll be OK.
The funny names are good for a laugh, we’ll keep those. There’s lady ‘Hornchurch and Penge’ or ‘Lord Icky of Toko Ri’. Lets see why some honours are given… I note a certain Mr Cragg has got the CBE, he is a ‘happening’ sculptor in rubbish he has found. He converts it from rubbish indiscriminately strewn, to rubbish in enigmatic wooden heaps. So when I knock down the old greenhouse I’ll make a heap and be a CBE. I could aim higher, I see a trainer of Butlers once got an MBE. The reason for that is clear, the honoured need as many lick-spittles as they can get so train them up by the thousands. The subservience must be continued. A toastmaster or two wouldn’t go amiss either .
Three workers at Sandringham are honoured, their forelocks are unnaturally long from excess tugging, never mind, they’ve got the gong, and can treasure it as they are moved out of their tied house when they retire. No doubt Balmoral and Windsor and the Royal prefab on Canvey Island are similarly honoured by employees gaining OM’s . At Buck House the big boys wait with bated breath, ever so bated. They need not have worried. Winging down came the knighthoods for the clerk in ordinary who still has to write the milkman a note on vellum, sealed with red sealing wax.
There is an important honour bestowed every year to the ‘Precedence of Honours Stick’ He has a touching stiff, if two honoured people meet and don’t know where they stand, POHS as he is called writes on the jacket of one of them with the end of the stick which has a carved ivory hand holding a stick of white chalk. He has to put a cross on each lapel. He is what is called the under honour and may do nothing until POHS lets him go. The over honour is touched with the other end of the stick which is a carved monkey with articulated fingers on one hand, it pinches his right ear lobe and they may then go their ways. Sometimes when POHS can’t be found, they have to stand there for hours till a stand-in arrives. There is always a spare at Osborne.
If the same proportion of the general population were honoured are as blessed as the employees in Royal palaces and houses, we would have to mint more medals than pound coins. About a quarter of any crown would be OBE’s upwards. Six million of us. Good idea, that would make it as cheap as Kellogg's corn flake buttons.
Some explanation is perhaps necessary. OBE means ‘ Order of the attacking and occupying Foreign Countries medal and the CBE is Companion of shooting natives only armed with sticks. MBE is no right to be there in the first place and it doesn’t exist anymore because we changed it’s name to Victorialand.
dukeboy749r said:
Whatever our differences on other threads, in this you are absolutely correct.
It's still a pretty broad church and might, conceivably include a politician who has made an outstanding contribution to their community or public life - way beyond what might be expected of them. peterperkins said:
We make resolutions on New Years Eve, redeem ourselves and live happily ever after. Why we can’t just as easily stop biting our nails on, say, the 24th of July is unexplained. There must be a special force associated with the First of January. This being so we are abolishing the Honours List, this First of January.
These wishes, desirous of fulfilment are called ‘resolutions’. Since
‘Resolution’ has proved to too strong a word, I call them ‘vague plans, if they are no trouble’. No-one would want a smoke detector connected to a belt of Hand Grenades to stop smoking. My only resolution is a campaign, of which this is the first powerful missive. It is to abolish the New Year’s Honours List and all honours old and new.
They are a quango of much decorated Civil Servants who have a small suite of fourteen offices just off Whitehall.
The undignified scattering of crumbs from our top table (The top table is the Palace, The King, the Queen and Children, and so on down in order of
Letters after…..’) I bet more people are put off good works by the fear of being singled out as a groveler than are encouraged by letters after their name and a parchment scroll. I don’t know the detail, but a scroll seems likely if someone wanted proof positive that you are not just pretending to be an O.B.E. Photocopies not accepted.
I would regard Honours in a better light if they were all the same but they are as divisive as ranks in the armed forces. Your C.B.E is light years ahead of your M.B.E and not just alphabetically. Best thing is to make everyone, babies included, into Earls tonight. The present rank system involves kneeling, sable robes, funny names, hats from Crackers etc. It is very easy to offend with things as they are but when the rat-catcher is ‘Lord Warfarin of Stockport,’ we’ll be OK.
The funny names are good for a laugh, we’ll keep those. There’s lady ‘Hornchurch and Penge’ or ‘Lord Icky of Toko Ri’. Lets see why some honours are given… I note a certain Mr Cragg has got the CBE, he is a ‘happening’ sculptor in rubbish he has found. He converts it from rubbish indiscriminately strewn, to rubbish in enigmatic wooden heaps. So when I knock down the old greenhouse I’ll make a heap and be a CBE. I could aim higher, I see a trainer of Butlers once got an MBE. The reason for that is clear, the honoured need as many lick-spittles as they can get so train them up by the thousands. The subservience must be continued. A toastmaster or two wouldn’t go amiss either .
Three workers at Sandringham are honoured, their forelocks are unnaturally long from excess tugging, never mind, they’ve got the gong, and can treasure it as they are moved out of their tied house when they retire. No doubt Balmoral and Windsor and the Royal prefab on Canvey Island are similarly honoured by employees gaining OM’s . At Buck House the big boys wait with bated breath, ever so bated. They need not have worried. Winging down came the knighthoods for the clerk in ordinary who still has to write the milkman a note on vellum, sealed with red sealing wax.
There is an important honour bestowed every year to the ‘Precedence of Honours Stick’ He has a touching stiff, if two honoured people meet and don’t know where they stand, POHS as he is called writes on the jacket of one of them with the end of the stick which has a carved ivory hand holding a stick of white chalk. He has to put a cross on each lapel. He is what is called the under honour and may do nothing until POHS lets him go. The over honour is touched with the other end of the stick which is a carved monkey with articulated fingers on one hand, it pinches his right ear lobe and they may then go their ways. Sometimes when POHS can’t be found, they have to stand there for hours till a stand-in arrives. There is always a spare at Osborne.
If the same proportion of the general population were honoured are as blessed as the employees in Royal palaces and houses, we would have to mint more medals than pound coins. About a quarter of any crown would be OBE’s upwards. Six million of us. Good idea, that would make it as cheap as Kellogg's corn flake buttons.
Some explanation is perhaps necessary. OBE means ‘ Order of the attacking and occupying Foreign Countries medal and the CBE is Companion of shooting natives only armed with sticks. MBE is no right to be there in the first place and it doesn’t exist anymore because we changed it’s name to Victorialand.
bThese wishes, desirous of fulfilment are called ‘resolutions’. Since
‘Resolution’ has proved to too strong a word, I call them ‘vague plans, if they are no trouble’. No-one would want a smoke detector connected to a belt of Hand Grenades to stop smoking. My only resolution is a campaign, of which this is the first powerful missive. It is to abolish the New Year’s Honours List and all honours old and new.
They are a quango of much decorated Civil Servants who have a small suite of fourteen offices just off Whitehall.
The undignified scattering of crumbs from our top table (The top table is the Palace, The King, the Queen and Children, and so on down in order of
Letters after…..’) I bet more people are put off good works by the fear of being singled out as a groveler than are encouraged by letters after their name and a parchment scroll. I don’t know the detail, but a scroll seems likely if someone wanted proof positive that you are not just pretending to be an O.B.E. Photocopies not accepted.
I would regard Honours in a better light if they were all the same but they are as divisive as ranks in the armed forces. Your C.B.E is light years ahead of your M.B.E and not just alphabetically. Best thing is to make everyone, babies included, into Earls tonight. The present rank system involves kneeling, sable robes, funny names, hats from Crackers etc. It is very easy to offend with things as they are but when the rat-catcher is ‘Lord Warfarin of Stockport,’ we’ll be OK.
The funny names are good for a laugh, we’ll keep those. There’s lady ‘Hornchurch and Penge’ or ‘Lord Icky of Toko Ri’. Lets see why some honours are given… I note a certain Mr Cragg has got the CBE, he is a ‘happening’ sculptor in rubbish he has found. He converts it from rubbish indiscriminately strewn, to rubbish in enigmatic wooden heaps. So when I knock down the old greenhouse I’ll make a heap and be a CBE. I could aim higher, I see a trainer of Butlers once got an MBE. The reason for that is clear, the honoured need as many lick-spittles as they can get so train them up by the thousands. The subservience must be continued. A toastmaster or two wouldn’t go amiss either .
Three workers at Sandringham are honoured, their forelocks are unnaturally long from excess tugging, never mind, they’ve got the gong, and can treasure it as they are moved out of their tied house when they retire. No doubt Balmoral and Windsor and the Royal prefab on Canvey Island are similarly honoured by employees gaining OM’s . At Buck House the big boys wait with bated breath, ever so bated. They need not have worried. Winging down came the knighthoods for the clerk in ordinary who still has to write the milkman a note on vellum, sealed with red sealing wax.
There is an important honour bestowed every year to the ‘Precedence of Honours Stick’ He has a touching stiff, if two honoured people meet and don’t know where they stand, POHS as he is called writes on the jacket of one of them with the end of the stick which has a carved ivory hand holding a stick of white chalk. He has to put a cross on each lapel. He is what is called the under honour and may do nothing until POHS lets him go. The over honour is touched with the other end of the stick which is a carved monkey with articulated fingers on one hand, it pinches his right ear lobe and they may then go their ways. Sometimes when POHS can’t be found, they have to stand there for hours till a stand-in arrives. There is always a spare at Osborne.
If the same proportion of the general population were honoured are as blessed as the employees in Royal palaces and houses, we would have to mint more medals than pound coins. About a quarter of any crown would be OBE’s upwards. Six million of us. Good idea, that would make it as cheap as Kellogg's corn flake buttons.
Some explanation is perhaps necessary. OBE means ‘ Order of the attacking and occupying Foreign Countries medal and the CBE is Companion of shooting natives only armed with sticks. MBE is no right to be there in the first place and it doesn’t exist anymore because we changed it’s name to Victorialand.
ks even by NP&E standards..ClaphamGT3 said:
It's still a pretty broad church and might, conceivably include a politician who has made an outstanding contribution to their community or public life - way beyond what might be expected of them.
At this point doing their job could be considered going beyond what's expected of them.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff