Banksy artwork removed (stolen)

[Olivera]

I see the latest Banksy piece was 'removed': https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-6780...

I'm mainly baffled by the language used in this BBC article, surely any reasonable person would say it was stolen? Yet the article repeatedly refers to removed/removal.

[Ridgemont]

There is something about this little tale which made me appreciate Terry Pratchett’s diskworld city of Ankh Morpork (a fantasy version of London). Basically unless you nail something down don’t assume it won’t be nicked by the good citizens of London. And if it is nailed down assume they’ll steal the nails and pole it is attached to as well.
Made me laugh.

[Ridgemont]

Olivera said:

I see the latest Banksy piece was 'removed': https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-6780...

I'm mainly baffled by the language used in this BBC article, surely any reasonable person would say it was stolen? Yet the article repeatedly refers to removed/removal.

Well that must clearly be a local council member taking precautions re graffiti. And not a scrote thieving stuff

[hairykrishna]

Not surprising really. Probably worth a couple of hundred grand and removable in about two minutes.

[Scabutz]

Olivera said:

I see the latest Banksy piece was 'removed': https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-6780...

I'm mainly baffled by the language used in this BBC article, surely any reasonable person would say it was stolen? Yet the article repeatedly refers to removed/removal.

At the risk of sounded a bit limp wristed maybe there is no intent to permanently deprive and he removed it to prevent it from being damaged.

Another question though. When he paints one of his things the council come and protect it and then sometimes the wall is removed and the artwork saved.

When a a yobbo sprays his tag on railway bridge the rozzers might chase him and some poor sop in a high viz comes and scrubs it off.

Who decides what is art and what is graffiti

[Ridgemont]

Scabutz said:

Olivera said:

I see the latest Banksy piece was 'removed': https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-6780...

I'm mainly baffled by the language used in this BBC article, surely any reasonable person would say it was stolen? Yet the article repeatedly refers to removed/removal.

At the risk of sounded a bit limp wristed maybe there is no intent to permanently deprive and he removed it to prevent it from being damaged.

Lmao.

Right.
God bless you.

[Gareth79]

For criminal damage there is a defence that you believe the person who could have consented to it would have done if they knew the circumstances. "Hi I'm Banksy, do you want me to spray the side of your house?" "fk yes, would you like a cup of tea?"

For this one, presumably the owner of the artwork is the council, since it was a modification of a proper street sign. Given they could have either put it in a local museum or flogged it for the council coffers I suspect they will not be amused.

[Ridgemont]

hairykrishna said:

Not surprising really. Probably worth a couple of hundred grand and removable in about two minutes.

It’ll be a lot less than that: no provenance for a start suggests that any enterprising nitwit will knock off replicas and claim it as original. I suspect it’s not worth more than a couple of hundred quid.

[Scabutz]

Ridgemont said:

Lmao.

Right.
God bless you.

I was joking

[Ridgemont]

Scabutz said:

Ridgemont said:

Lmao.

Right.
God bless you.

I was joking

My bad. I’ll claim the whoosh parrot but your limp wristed qualification threw me of the scent

[julian987R]

the road sign is council property so if it is sold it can be taken back - therefore it has become worthless.

[Scabutz]

Ridgemont said:

Scabutz said:

Ridgemont said:

Lmao.

Right.
God bless you.

I was joking

My bad. I’ll claim the whoosh parrot but your limp wristed qualification threw me of the scent

I put that to try and start it as a joke, was going to put something about being a limp wristed lillylivered liberal and was worried about the spelling and then it all came out wrong and didnt change it. So six of one , half a dozen of the other. Merry Christmas

[CoolHands]

Who cares. It would be taken down and sold by someone (council?) anyway, so why shouldn’t they do it.

[Ridgemont]

Scabutz said:

Ridgemont said:

Scabutz said:

Ridgemont said:

Lmao.

Right.
God bless you.

I was joking

My bad. I’ll claim the whoosh parrot but your limp wristed qualification threw me of the scent

I put that to try and start it as a joke, was going to put something about being a limp wristed lillylivered liberal and was worried about the spelling and then it all came out wrong and didnt change it. So six of one , half a dozen of the other. Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas!

[ashleyman]

Fair play. Wish I’d have got it for my office!

[julian987R]

CoolHands said:

Who cares. It would be taken down and sold by someone (council?) anyway, so why shouldn’t they do it.

they, being the owners of the sign. SO, not someone, the council.

[Ridgemont]

CoolHands said:

Who cares. It would be taken down and sold by someone (council?) anyway, so why shouldn’t they do it.

Well there is a vein of opinion that suggests that public art should be appreciated as such and be left for the public to enjoy, much like graffiti but what ever: let’s nick stuff. I’m sure the public space is improved by its absence.

I reckon the angel of the north might be worth some scrappage.

[CoolHands]

Bankseys aren’t left for the public to enjoy. So, it’s approx number 5018 on my list of what to give a st about, and I dare say most other peoples too.

[Horsey McHorseface]

Scabutz said:

When a a yobbo sprays his tag on railway bridge the rozzers might chase him and some poor sop in a high viz comes and scrubs it off.

Who decides what is art and what is graffiti

The market place, i.e. the commercial way.

[Ridgemont]

CoolHands said:

Bankseys aren’t left for the public to enjoy. So, it’s approx number 5018 on my list of what to give a st about, and I dare say most other peoples too.

I don’t know him but I would suggest the exact opposite: Banksey is all about public consumption of art. It’s his thing.
But you feel free to focus on threads about which you care about… I’m sure issue 5017 needs your attention.