Nurses jailed for sedating patients

[shed driver]

7 years is a good sentence and sends a clear statement to others.

BBC News - Blackpool nurse who drugged stroke patients jailed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-6...

As a retired nurse I have a lot of admiration for the student who had the courage to blow the whistle.

SD.

[grumbledoak]

Good. I bet way more of that goes on than is admitted.

[shed driver]

grumbledoak said:

Good. I bet way more of that goes on than is admitted.

Anecdotally I would say yes, in the past it was common enough for me to have seen it several times. And at the time it was explained away as "it's for their safety, if they are sleeping they can't fall".

SD

[Lotobear]

Nurse Ratched

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shed driver said:

grumbledoak said:

Good. I bet way more of that goes on than is admitted.

Anecdotally I would say yes, in the past it was common enough for me to have seen it several times. And at the time it was explained away as "it's for their safety, if they are sleeping they can't fall".

SD

I have seen it too. I made a complaint about a hospital doing it to my grandfather and that excuse was used. Zopiclone seemed to be standard practice on the ward.

[Derek Smith]

I was watching the summing up on Sky when in a restaurant waiting area. There was no sound, just the subtitles. The TV cut away to the studio and the presenter said, 'We apologise for the language used in that broadcast . . .'

I see standards of judges when summing up have dropped since I was a frequenter of criminal courts.

[7mike]

Hang on, where are all the posters questioning the organisation they worked for? If a cop, squaddie or Tory MP had just been jailed for seven years this thread would be over ten pages long by now

[bitchstewie]

Definitely questions around how they were able to get the drugs they used.

I'm guessing it's because there doesn't seem to be a culture of this sort of thing happening or at least not that we know about?

It doesn't seem like it is with, let's say The Met, where almost every other day we're reading about "bad apples" enough to think it isn't just a grim one-off.

[Biggy Stardust]

7mike said:

Hang on, where are all the posters questioning the organisation they worked for? If a cop, squaddie or Tory MP had just been jailed for seven years this thread would be over ten pages long by now

Apparently all nurses are "angels" and nobody dare say a word against them for fear of the white knights amongst us.

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bhstewie said:

Definitely questions around how they were able to get the drugs they used.

I'm guessing it's because there doesn't seem to be a culture of this sort of thing happening or at least not that we know about?

It doesn't seem like it is with, let's say The Met, where almost every other day we're reading about "bad apples" enough to think it isn't just a grim one-off.

If you don't look for it, you won't see it. There was a time it was regarded as a 'only few bad apples' in the Metropolitan police after all.

[7mike]

bhstewie said:

I'm guessing it's because there doesn't seem to be a culture of this sort of thing happening or at least not that we know about?

It doesn't seem like it is with, let's say The Met, where almost every other day we're reading about "bad apples" enough to think it isn't just a grim one-off.

Alternatively, it could be that some people exaggerate the number of instances in one organisation, whilst playing down those in another as it suits their personal agenda

[bitchstewie]

Show me nurses acting like those ones did and I want them out the NHS and in jail.

I don't seem to be waking up to stories about that kind of behaviour on an almost daily basis.

Not sure what the little wink is all about.

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I'm in no way condoning the nurses behaviour.

Its interesting one of the lines the defence took was "gallows humour in a chronically under resourced unit"

Especially the latter bit.

Low paid, over stressed / stretched staff in difficult working conditions. Freely available drugs with few checks. Sooner or later someone was going to try to lighten their workload.

I'm surprised that the organisation has seemingly avoided criticism.

As a country what is done about that I couldn't say.

We have an aging population requiring greater levels of care, less working age people per pensioner than we've ever seen, hundreds of thousands of gapped / open NHS roles, and a reluctance to reform (or fund and structure reform in an efficient manner).

I don't see the conditions which enabled this to happen changing soon.