Do you think it is acceptable to send immigrants to Rwanda?
Poll: Do you think it is acceptable to send immigrants to Rwanda?
Total Members Polled: 669
Discussion
I'd be interested to see what people's view is on this on a straight yes/no basis?
I'm not asking if you think we should or shouldn't take in immigrants, and I doubt there is a single person on here who thinks we should either take every single person who asks or deny entry to every last person either.
The question is simply whether, regardless of the proportion of would be immigrants you think we should accept, you think it is reasonable to send those we reject to Rwanda?
I'm not asking if you think we should or shouldn't take in immigrants, and I doubt there is a single person on here who thinks we should either take every single person who asks or deny entry to every last person either.
The question is simply whether, regardless of the proportion of would be immigrants you think we should accept, you think it is reasonable to send those we reject to Rwanda?
Personally I think the whole asylum system is broken and needs a fundamental rethink. The concept and practice wasn’t put in place with mass transportation and welfare states in mind.
Last year there were over a million applications in the EU and U.K. That is a huge number of people.
Last year there were over a million applications in the EU and U.K. That is a huge number of people.
Absolutely not.
It's one rung above treating human beings like livestock. Has overtones reminiscent of slavery and not something a civil society nation like the UK should even be thinking about let alone trying to do.
There are solutions to be found at the point of origin, along the route of migration and on the north French coast. These, however, all require a level of intellect, compassion, partnership working with other nations and other virtues which our current government seems to be devoid of.
It's one rung above treating human beings like livestock. Has overtones reminiscent of slavery and not something a civil society nation like the UK should even be thinking about let alone trying to do.
There are solutions to be found at the point of origin, along the route of migration and on the north French coast. These, however, all require a level of intellect, compassion, partnership working with other nations and other virtues which our current government seems to be devoid of.
Skeptisk said:
Last year there were over a million applications in the EU and U.K. That is a huge number of people.
Where did you get that figure from? According to the House of Commons Library, in 2022, the total number of asylum applications was 81,130 (In 2002 it was 84,132). 23,841 people were granted protection of which 5,792 were permanently resettled in the UK.
StevieBee said:
Skeptisk said:
Last year there were over a million applications in the EU and U.K. That is a huge number of people.
Where did you get that figure from? According to the House of Commons Library, in 2022, the total number of asylum applications was 81,130 (In 2002 it was 84,132). 23,841 people were granted protection of which 5,792 were permanently resettled in the UK.
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained...
We are a soft touch nation, with over generous benefit and healthcare systems for non indigenous people who have never contributed.
Who’d stay in a tented camp in France if they can get a hotel here and 3 hot meals a day.
Why we are taking in Albanian asylum seekers at the same time as BA is pushing Albania as a holiday destination is beyond me, let’s align asylum with fco advice on where is safe to travel.
bennno said:
We are a soft touch nation, with over generous benefit and healthcare systems for non indigenous people who have never contributed.
Who’d stay in a tented camp in France if they can get a hotel here and 3 hot meals a day.
Why we are taking in Albanian asylum seekers at the same time as BA is pushing Albania as a holiday destination is beyond me, let’s align asylum with fco advice on where is safe to travel.
BA are offering holidays to Saudi Arabia. You go there as a same sex couple and see how it goes. Safe travel does not mean everyone is free from persecution.Who’d stay in a tented camp in France if they can get a hotel here and 3 hot meals a day.
Why we are taking in Albanian asylum seekers at the same time as BA is pushing Albania as a holiday destination is beyond me, let’s align asylum with fco advice on where is safe to travel.
Vanden Saab said:
StevieBee said:
Skeptisk said:
Last year there were over a million applications in the EU and U.K. That is a huge number of people.
Where did you get that figure from? According to the House of Commons Library, in 2022, the total number of asylum applications was 81,130 (In 2002 it was 84,132). 23,841 people were granted protection of which 5,792 were permanently resettled in the UK.
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained...
bennno said:
We are a soft touch nation, with over generous benefit and healthcare systems for non indigenous people who have never contributed.
Who’d stay in a tented camp in France if they can get a hotel here and 3 hot meals a day.
Why we are taking in Albanian asylum seekers at the same time as BA is pushing Albania as a holiday destination is beyond me, let’s align asylum with fco advice on where is safe to travel.
The status of "asylum seeker" should be temporary as possible. Who’d stay in a tented camp in France if they can get a hotel here and 3 hot meals a day.
Why we are taking in Albanian asylum seekers at the same time as BA is pushing Albania as a holiday destination is beyond me, let’s align asylum with fco advice on where is safe to travel.
Albanians, generally, have few valid reasons to claim aslyum here (or anywhere). They *should* have their applications processed fairly and quickly, and when they're application is mostly likely denied, they should be deported back to Albania with haste.
If we're flooded with aslyum seekers who come from Albania right now, and you're angry about it, blame the Tories. They're deliberatly slowing processing of asylum applications that's causing the huge backlog of people existing in s
tty hotels around the country. All so the Tories can look like they're trying to do sometthing, but are being frustrated by "enemies of the people".
Edited by Rivenink on Friday 17th November 08:57
Rivenink said:
bennno said:
We are a soft touch nation, with over generous benefit and healthcare systems for non indigenous people who have never contributed.
Who’d stay in a tented camp in France if they can get a hotel here and 3 hot meals a day.
Why we are taking in Albanian asylum seekers at the same time as BA is pushing Albania as a holiday destination is beyond me, let’s align asylum with fco advice on where is safe to travel.
The status of "asylum seeker" should be temporary as possible. Who’d stay in a tented camp in France if they can get a hotel here and 3 hot meals a day.
Why we are taking in Albanian asylum seekers at the same time as BA is pushing Albania as a holiday destination is beyond me, let’s align asylum with fco advice on where is safe to travel.
Albanians, generally, have few valid reasons to claim aslyum here (or anywhere). They *should* have their applications processed fairly and quickly, and when they're application is mostly likely denied, they should be deported back to Albania with haste.
If we're flooded with aslyum seekers who come from Albania right now, and you're angry about it, blame the Tories. They're deliberatly slowing processing of asylum applications that's causing the huge backlog of people existing in s
tty hotels around the country. All so the Tories can look like they're trying to do sometthing, but are being frustrated by "enemies of the people".
Edited by Rivenink on Friday 17th November 08:57
Electro1980 said:
bennno said:
We are a soft touch nation, with over generous benefit and healthcare systems for non indigenous people who have never contributed.
Who’d stay in a tented camp in France if they can get a hotel here and 3 hot meals a day.
Why we are taking in Albanian asylum seekers at the same time as BA is pushing Albania as a holiday destination is beyond me, let’s align asylum with fco advice on where is safe to travel.
BA are offering holidays to Saudi Arabia. You go there as a same sex couple and see how it goes. Safe travel does not mean everyone is free from persecution.Who’d stay in a tented camp in France if they can get a hotel here and 3 hot meals a day.
Why we are taking in Albanian asylum seekers at the same time as BA is pushing Albania as a holiday destination is beyond me, let’s align asylum with fco advice on where is safe to travel.
If it were ever in doubt as to how right-wing skewed the NP&E cesspit was, the actually public opinion (when polled more representatively) was a minority of 42% in favour of sending immigrants to Rwanda.
https://twitter.com/GyllKing/status/17248944221757...
https://twitter.com/GyllKing/status/17248944221757...
Electro1980 said:
bennno said:
We are a soft touch nation, with over generous benefit and healthcare systems for non indigenous people who have never contributed.
Who’d stay in a tented camp in France if they can get a hotel here and 3 hot meals a day.
Why we are taking in Albanian asylum seekers at the same time as BA is pushing Albania as a holiday destination is beyond me, let’s align asylum with fco advice on where is safe to travel.
BA are offering holidays to Saudi Arabia. You go there as a same sex couple and see how it goes. Safe travel does not mean everyone is free from persecution.Who’d stay in a tented camp in France if they can get a hotel here and 3 hot meals a day.
Why we are taking in Albanian asylum seekers at the same time as BA is pushing Albania as a holiday destination is beyond me, let’s align asylum with fco advice on where is safe to travel.
We [rightly] persecute bigamy and pedophiles here, whilst in other countries you can be married to multiple wives and the age of consent is as low as 12.
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