Therese Coffey and Stress
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Suffolk MP Therese Coffey says she nearly died due to stress.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-6741...
This Therese Coffey? Yes, she looks really stressed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-6741...
This Therese Coffey? Yes, she looks really stressed.
Halmyre said:
Suffolk MP Therese Coffey says she nearly died due to stress.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-6741...
This Therese Coffey? Yes, she looks really stressed.
Tbh this says more about you than Coffey.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-6741...
This Therese Coffey? Yes, she looks really stressed.
What a strange thread. I imagine being Environment Secretary is actually quite a stressful job.
Imagine you were so overworked that you made yourself ill enough to need medical help, and someone dug up a Facebook photo of you partying and went look, that Halmyre, not exactly stressed is he? How would you feel?
Imagine you were so overworked that you made yourself ill enough to need medical help, and someone dug up a Facebook photo of you partying and went look, that Halmyre, not exactly stressed is he? How would you feel?
Governments routinely kill people with their heartless and some would say psychopathic decisions every day. but there are some people defending Coffey? Jesus.
If this government including Coffey had worked FOR the good of the people of this country, especially the most vulnerable in society then I might have some sympathy for her but they haven't. If fact they, and especially Coffey have shown their contempt for regular people at every turn in the road.
Hospitalised due to stress, that's nasty no question about it (if true) but if this was the case she needed to resign . An incompetent clown. It is almost impossible for me to empathise with those who have zero empathy for the people they are supposed to be working for/ruling over. (that's us btw)
If this government including Coffey had worked FOR the good of the people of this country, especially the most vulnerable in society then I might have some sympathy for her but they haven't. If fact they, and especially Coffey have shown their contempt for regular people at every turn in the road.
Hospitalised due to stress, that's nasty no question about it (if true) but if this was the case she needed to resign . An incompetent clown. It is almost impossible for me to empathise with those who have zero empathy for the people they are supposed to be working for/ruling over. (that's us btw)
When empathy is conditional upon how much it's deserved, it's easy to see how we end up with politicians who have no empathy for anyone who isn't of value to them.
Empathy is an uncomfortable and draining emotion. It can conflict with other emotions. It makes you feel bad for someone in pain or hardship, and makes you want to help them, and frustrates you when you cannot. It's understandable that people feel the need to gatekeep who can make them feel it.
Alll that is to say, I feel sorry for Coffey, and I hope she recovers. But I do also hope that she is forever kept away from a position of power.
Empathy is an uncomfortable and draining emotion. It can conflict with other emotions. It makes you feel bad for someone in pain or hardship, and makes you want to help them, and frustrates you when you cannot. It's understandable that people feel the need to gatekeep who can make them feel it.
Alll that is to say, I feel sorry for Coffey, and I hope she recovers. But I do also hope that she is forever kept away from a position of power.
I can imagine it is quite stressful being in a position that you and the whole world can clearly see you are completely unqualified for. Rather than trying to wing it daily just don't do it for your own health and sanity, particularly when on full public display.
I would venture this applies in the case of many modern politicians.
Rory Stewart touched on some of this in his book.
I would venture this applies in the case of many modern politicians.
Rory Stewart touched on some of this in his book.
Rivenink said:
When empathy is conditional upon how much it's deserved, it's easy to see how we end up with politicians who have no empathy for anyone who isn't of value to them.
Empathy is an uncomfortable and draining emotion. It can conflict with other emotions. It makes you feel bad for someone in pain or hardship, and makes you want to help them, and frustrates you when you cannot. It's understandable that people feel the need to gatekeep who can make them feel it.
Alll that is to say, I feel sorry for Coffey, and I hope she recovers. But I do also hope that she is forever kept away from a position of power.
I agree with what you've put for the most part. I certainly don't feel a need to gatekeep who can make me feel empathy towards them though., I did say i find it almost impossible to have empathy with her.Empathy is an uncomfortable and draining emotion. It can conflict with other emotions. It makes you feel bad for someone in pain or hardship, and makes you want to help them, and frustrates you when you cannot. It's understandable that people feel the need to gatekeep who can make them feel it.
Alll that is to say, I feel sorry for Coffey, and I hope she recovers. But I do also hope that she is forever kept away from a position of power.
But I do think that sudden outpourings of support for such obviously horrible people are strange in situations like these. It's almost like Stockholm syndrome in a way. Those in power (whatever their political colours) treat us appalling then we are expected to feel sorry for them when something like this happens.
To be clear, i don't think she deserves to have been hospitalised though stress, nobody deserves that. It is of course entirely possible to have ambivalent feelings about something such as this as well.
I know a couple of people who have been in her exact situation (as in hospitalised due to stress, not cabinet ministers). They both left their area of employment and sought work in a less stressful environment. But that's because they weren't blinded with a need for clutching onto control and power and realised that they couldn't go on like that. Not an easy thing to do in itself but a sensible move.
neilr said:
Rivenink said:
When empathy is conditional upon how much it's deserved, it's easy to see how we end up with politicians who have no empathy for anyone who isn't of value to them.
Empathy is an uncomfortable and draining emotion. It can conflict with other emotions. It makes you feel bad for someone in pain or hardship, and makes you want to help them, and frustrates you when you cannot. It's understandable that people feel the need to gatekeep who can make them feel it.
Alll that is to say, I feel sorry for Coffey, and I hope she recovers. But I do also hope that she is forever kept away from a position of power.
I agree with what you've put for the most part. I certainly don't feel a need to gatekeep who can make me feel empathy towards them though., I did say i find it almost impossible to have empathy with her.Empathy is an uncomfortable and draining emotion. It can conflict with other emotions. It makes you feel bad for someone in pain or hardship, and makes you want to help them, and frustrates you when you cannot. It's understandable that people feel the need to gatekeep who can make them feel it.
Alll that is to say, I feel sorry for Coffey, and I hope she recovers. But I do also hope that she is forever kept away from a position of power.
But I do think that sudden outpourings of support for such obviously horrible people are strange in situations like these. It's almost like Stockholm syndrome in a way. Those in power (whatever their political colours) treat us appalling then we are expected to feel sorry for them when something like this happens.
To be clear, i don't think she deserves to have been hospitalised though stress, nobody deserves that. It is of course entirely possible to have ambivalent feelings about something such as this as well.
I know a couple of people who have been in her exact situation (as in hospitalised due to stress, not cabinet ministers). They both left their area of employment and sought work in a less stressful environment. But that's because they weren't blinded with a need for clutching onto control and power and realised that they couldn't go on like that. Not an easy thing to do in itself but a sensible move.
I agree, the treatment for stress involves making changes to resolve the situation that is causing you stress.
cgt2 said:
I can imagine it is quite stressful being in a position that you and the whole world can clearly see you are completely unqualified for. Rather than trying to wing it daily just don't do it for your own health and sanity, particularly when on full public display.
I would venture this applies in the case of many modern politicians.
Rory Stewart touched on some of this in his book.
Agree entirely - not only has there been total discontinuity in Environment as well as many (most?) other departments, but by and large their occupants have little clue as to what they are doing. Whether we'll get Rory's recommended 2-year minimum tenure plus compulsory induction/training who knows, but it'd be a step forward.I would venture this applies in the case of many modern politicians.
Rory Stewart touched on some of this in his book.
Edited by Bonefish Blues on Thursday 16th November 12:30
Regardless of how you feel towards her politically, stress can be an absolute bd and it's very easy for it to spiral into depression or worse.
Very easy to say just quit or pull yourself together by people who've never been there and whilst I'm critical of her performance professionally and her party, I wish her a speedy recovery.
Very easy to say just quit or pull yourself together by people who've never been there and whilst I'm critical of her performance professionally and her party, I wish her a speedy recovery.
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