Therese Coffey and Stress

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Halmyre

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11,462 posts

145 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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Suffolk MP Therese Coffey says she nearly died due to stress.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-6741...

This Therese Coffey? Yes, she looks really stressed.


bitchstewie

54,511 posts

216 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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Don't be daft.

There's plenty to dislike about Coffey but stress and other mental health stuff absolutely fks people up and in some cases kills them.

It isn't something I'd wish on my worst enemy.

Random Account No6

5,060 posts

192 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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Halmyre said:
Suffolk MP Therese Coffey says she nearly died due to stress.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-6741...

This Therese Coffey? Yes, she looks really stressed.

Tbh this says more about you than Coffey.

OMITN

2,376 posts

98 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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Random Account No6 said:
Tbh this says more about you than Coffey.
Quite. She may be inept, but to be hospitalised for a month as a result of stress means she was very ill.

Tankrizzo

7,464 posts

199 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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What a strange thread. I imagine being Environment Secretary is actually quite a stressful job.

Imagine you were so overworked that you made yourself ill enough to need medical help, and someone dug up a Facebook photo of you partying and went look, that Halmyre, not exactly stressed is he? How would you feel?

Halmyre

Original Poster:

11,462 posts

145 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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I apologise. I'll get it taken down.

smifffymoto

4,732 posts

211 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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She was probably made ill by the realisation she was at her job and severely out of her depth.

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

89 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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Lazy bd cant do sas shows or jungle trials so goes for sympathy with the public to try and rehabilitate her image.
Will we see Suella on anything? Have they dismantled Noel edmonds Give It A Whirl contraption?

sugerbear

4,382 posts

164 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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If she really was that stressed she could easily have easily resigned her post and headed to the back benches.

She didn't but she probably has a book to write now I imagine.

neilr

1,527 posts

269 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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Governments routinely kill people with their heartless and some would say psychopathic decisions every day. but there are some people defending Coffey? Jesus.

If this government including Coffey had worked FOR the good of the people of this country, especially the most vulnerable in society then I might have some sympathy for her but they haven't. If fact they, and especially Coffey have shown their contempt for regular people at every turn in the road.

Hospitalised due to stress, that's nasty no question about it (if true) but if this was the case she needed to resign . An incompetent clown. It is almost impossible for me to empathise with those who have zero empathy for the people they are supposed to be working for/ruling over. (that's us btw)

Rivenink

3,936 posts

112 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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When empathy is conditional upon how much it's deserved, it's easy to see how we end up with politicians who have no empathy for anyone who isn't of value to them.


Empathy is an uncomfortable and draining emotion. It can conflict with other emotions. It makes you feel bad for someone in pain or hardship, and makes you want to help them, and frustrates you when you cannot. It's understandable that people feel the need to gatekeep who can make them feel it.

Alll that is to say, I feel sorry for Coffey, and I hope she recovers. But I do also hope that she is forever kept away from a position of power.

cgt2

7,139 posts

194 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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I can imagine it is quite stressful being in a position that you and the whole world can clearly see you are completely unqualified for. Rather than trying to wing it daily just don't do it for your own health and sanity, particularly when on full public display.

I would venture this applies in the case of many modern politicians.

Rory Stewart touched on some of this in his book.

conkerman

3,364 posts

141 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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-- Dog Star Has Joined the chat.

neilr

1,527 posts

269 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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Rivenink said:
When empathy is conditional upon how much it's deserved, it's easy to see how we end up with politicians who have no empathy for anyone who isn't of value to them.


Empathy is an uncomfortable and draining emotion. It can conflict with other emotions. It makes you feel bad for someone in pain or hardship, and makes you want to help them, and frustrates you when you cannot. It's understandable that people feel the need to gatekeep who can make them feel it.

Alll that is to say, I feel sorry for Coffey, and I hope she recovers. But I do also hope that she is forever kept away from a position of power.
I agree with what you've put for the most part. I certainly don't feel a need to gatekeep who can make me feel empathy towards them though., I did say i find it almost impossible to have empathy with her.

But I do think that sudden outpourings of support for such obviously horrible people are strange in situations like these. It's almost like Stockholm syndrome in a way. Those in power (whatever their political colours) treat us appalling then we are expected to feel sorry for them when something like this happens.

To be clear, i don't think she deserves to have been hospitalised though stress, nobody deserves that. It is of course entirely possible to have ambivalent feelings about something such as this as well.

I know a couple of people who have been in her exact situation (as in hospitalised due to stress, not cabinet ministers). They both left their area of employment and sought work in a less stressful environment. But that's because they weren't blinded with a need for clutching onto control and power and realised that they couldn't go on like that. Not an easy thing to do in itself but a sensible move.






Rivenink

3,936 posts

112 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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neilr said:
Rivenink said:
When empathy is conditional upon how much it's deserved, it's easy to see how we end up with politicians who have no empathy for anyone who isn't of value to them.


Empathy is an uncomfortable and draining emotion. It can conflict with other emotions. It makes you feel bad for someone in pain or hardship, and makes you want to help them, and frustrates you when you cannot. It's understandable that people feel the need to gatekeep who can make them feel it.

Alll that is to say, I feel sorry for Coffey, and I hope she recovers. But I do also hope that she is forever kept away from a position of power.
I agree with what you've put for the most part. I certainly don't feel a need to gatekeep who can make me feel empathy towards them though., I did say i find it almost impossible to have empathy with her.

But I do think that sudden outpourings of support for such obviously horrible people are strange in situations like these. It's almost like Stockholm syndrome in a way. Those in power (whatever their political colours) treat us appalling then we are expected to feel sorry for them when something like this happens.

To be clear, i don't think she deserves to have been hospitalised though stress, nobody deserves that. It is of course entirely possible to have ambivalent feelings about something such as this as well.

I know a couple of people who have been in her exact situation (as in hospitalised due to stress, not cabinet ministers). They both left their area of employment and sought work in a less stressful environment. But that's because they weren't blinded with a need for clutching onto control and power and realised that they couldn't go on like that. Not an easy thing to do in itself but a sensible move.
Yup to be clear, my post wasn't a direct commentary upon yours. It was intended to be much more generalised and thought provoking smile

I agree, the treatment for stress involves making changes to resolve the situation that is causing you stress.

119

8,972 posts

42 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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Christ, amazing how many mental health experts have posted in this thread apparently knowing more than the medical professionals she was seeing.

This place is the fking pits sometimes.

Pitre

4,900 posts

240 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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bhstewie said:
Don't be daft.

There's plenty to dislike about Coffey but stress and other mental health stuff absolutely fks people up and in some cases kills them.

It isn't something I'd wish on my worst enemy.
Well said. yes

Bonefish Blues

28,888 posts

229 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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cgt2 said:
I can imagine it is quite stressful being in a position that you and the whole world can clearly see you are completely unqualified for. Rather than trying to wing it daily just don't do it for your own health and sanity, particularly when on full public display.

I would venture this applies in the case of many modern politicians.

Rory Stewart touched on some of this in his book.
Agree entirely - not only has there been total discontinuity in Environment as well as many (most?) other departments, but by and large their occupants have little clue as to what they are doing. Whether we'll get Rory's recommended 2-year minimum tenure plus compulsory induction/training who knows, but it'd be a step forward.

Edited by Bonefish Blues on Thursday 16th November 12:30

S600BSB

5,953 posts

112 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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Poor thread even by NP&E standards.

valiant

11,165 posts

166 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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Regardless of how you feel towards her politically, stress can be an absolute bd and it's very easy for it to spiral into depression or worse.

Very easy to say just quit or pull yourself together by people who've never been there and whilst I'm critical of her performance professionally and her party, I wish her a speedy recovery.